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    Toshiba OCZ PCIe SSD Z-Drive 4500

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?

      No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.

      OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?

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        • ?
          A Former User
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          I swapped a samsung evo 840 into my laptop and it SCREAMS!!!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Dashrender said:

            @scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?

            No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.

            OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?

            When you have specific support, longevity or performance needs that demand them.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @Bill Kindle
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              @Bill-Kindle said:

              @Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?

              Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.

              I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.

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              • Bill KindleB
                Bill Kindle @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said:

                @Bill-Kindle said:

                @Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?

                Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.

                I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.

                I remember reading articles where some early adopters really dogged on SSD's but failed to mention that they were on the bleeding edge and those issues should have been expected. But 2 years might as well be 2 centuries in the progress that has been made with SSD technology. Just take a look at some of the developments that SanDisk for instance has made in the area.

                http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandisk/press-room/press-releases/2014/sandisk-announces-release-of-ulltradimm,-the-industry’s-first-flash-based-ultra-low-latency-storage-device/

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  @Bill-Kindle said:

                  @Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?

                  Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.

                  I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.

                  Even two years ago they rocked. The myth and rumor around SSD is so strong that it seems like issues were that recent but it has actually been much longer.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
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                    Seems like it's going to be like RAID 5, something that's hard to shake loose from people's thoughts.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol

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                      • Bill KindleB
                        Bill Kindle @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller circle of life.....

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol

                          Not worth still skipping it and sticking with RAID 6? I take it URE's are enough of a non issue?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol

                            Not worth still skipping it and sticking with RAID 6? I take it URE's are enough of a non issue?

                            So far, URE doesn't conceptually exist in the SSD world. It's a spinning rust issue.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
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                              RAID 6 would keep other benefits, of course.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                What about DAC? isn't that still a factor with any parity RAID?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  What about DAC? isn't that still a factor with any parity RAID?

                                  Yes it is. However, it is suspected that much of DAC is a second order consequence of URE. And also a lot of DAC is believed to come from drive vibration. Both things are fixed with SSD. So it is believed that the likelihood of DAC is lower.

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