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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @justin867
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      @justin867 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

      Hi,

      I believe switch to device limit is 100 meters on cat 5/6. Can i exceed? if i will make it switch to switch by around 150 meters?

      Will it work and have link? Yes.

      Will it work at 1Gbps Full Duplex? Maybe, but poorly.

      You are talking half again the rated length of Ethernet.

      People do stupid crap all the time and have it work. That doe snot been it works well or for long.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
        last edited by wirestyle22

        @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

        @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

        Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

        Best Answer.

        Because any thing else requires power.

        Regardless of what he is connecting? Because we have no idea what he is actually cabling for

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
          last edited by

          @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

          @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

          @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

          Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

          Best Answer.

          Because any thing else requires power.

          Regardless of what he is connecting? Because we have no idea what he is actually cabling for

          ........................

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

            @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

            @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

            Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

            Best Answer.

            Because any thing else requires power.

            Regardless of what he is connecting?

            To have 2 Ethernet cables that exceed the limit of the cable, you need a switch in-between the two cables. This repeats the signal.

            But it's costly in that you need to have power wherever the first cable ends and the second cable begins. Plus you need to install a switch.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
              last edited by

              You could use media converters on the end of the fiber if your switches don't have Fiber connects. This of course adds costs but you aren't doing something odd like installing a switch to create a daisy-chain ethernet cable. .

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              • wirestyle22W
                wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
                last edited by wirestyle22

                @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

                Best Answer.

                Because any thing else requires power.

                Regardless of what he is connecting?

                To have 2 Ethernet cables that exceed the limit of the cable, you need a switch in-between the two cables. This repeats the signal.

                But it's costly in that you need to have power wherever the first cable ends and the second cable begins. Plus you need to install a switch.

                Yes, I understand. I said use a repeater at the top. Then JB was JB, even though when you say "switch" it's synonymous with a lot of things that aren't required of a repeater, such as mac address tables. That doesn't matter though because JB just wants to be a dick all of the time.

                I ask for clarity as there are very few things that are universally the right decision and I get a giant ellipsis.

                Typical Jared though.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                  last edited by

                  @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                  @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                  Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

                  Best Answer.

                  Because any thing else requires power.

                  Regardless of what he is connecting?

                  To have 2 Ethernet cables that exceed the limit of the cable, you need a switch in-between the two cables. This repeats the signal.

                  But it's costly in that you need to have power wherever the first cable ends and the second cable begins. Plus you need to install a switch.

                  Yes, I understand. I said use a repeater at the top. Then JB was JB, even though when you say "switch" it's synonymous with a lot of things that aren't required of a repeater, such as mac address tables. That doesn't matter though because JB just wants to be a dick all of the time.

                  I ask for clarity as there are very few things that are universally the right decision and I get a giant ellipsis.

                  Typical Jared though.

                  You can be ass hurt all you want, but you are still wrong. If you want to drag this out, I can go there.

                  Q. WTF is a repeater?
                  A. A switch.

                  Q. Does a switch require power?
                  A. Yes.

                  Q. So does a repeater power?
                  A. Yes.

                  Shall we move on? Or would you like to be all whiny bitch some more?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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                    @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                    when you say "switch" it's synonymous with a lot of things that aren't required of a repeater, such as mac address tables.

                    WTF does this have to do with anything? You are now making shit up out of whole cloth.

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                    • J
                      justin867
                      last edited by

                      lol, you guys are funny. thanks for all the posts.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                        @wirestyle22 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                        when you say "switch" it's synonymous with a lot of things that aren't required of a repeater, such as mac address tables.

                        WTF does this have to do with anything? You are now making shit up out of whole cloth.

                        Please shut the fuck up Jared. I have no idea why you gain pleasure from being an asshole. It amazes me that we have mutual friends.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @justin867
                          last edited by

                          @justin867 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                          lol, you guys are funny. thanks for all the posts.

                          Anytime. I did quote your directly to keep those in context on my answers for you.

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                          • J
                            justin867
                            last edited by

                            i could use this with my ruckus icx 7150 for this project.
                            https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J66FQKC/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01J66FQKC

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              Fiber to Ethernet converters also need power, but only at the ends. Which at least this way you have one cable and don't need to think about running electric to wherever the Ethernet would end up and the second Ethernet starts.

                              So half one half the other, but I'd go fiber before I daisy chain ethernet.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @justin867 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                i could use this with my ruckus icx 7150 for this project.
                                https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J66FQKC/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01J66FQKC

                                Even though it says "direct bury" I'd put conduit in and pull through that. I'd be pissed if somehow the fiber got cut.

                                Depending on where you are, you might be required by law to put conduit and cover the conduit with cement and to put a notice flag in with it.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                  Depending on where you are, you might be required by law to put conduit and cover the conduit with cement and to put a notice flag in with it.

                                  You need to GTFO of NY...

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                    Depending on where you are, you might be required by law to put conduit and cover the conduit with cement and to put a notice flag in with it.

                                    You need to GTFO of NY...

                                    Tell me about it.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                      Even though it says "direct bury" I'd put conduit in and pull through that. I'd be pissed if somehow the fiber got cut.

                                      While conduit is nice for re-pulling needs, anything that will cut the fiber, will also most likely cut the conduit. Assuming you trench it below 2' no one is going to be digging that deep with anything that will not also just rip the conduit in 2.

                                      Been there, done that. Got that t-shirt.
                                      Both as the person running the trencher and separately as the person who's shit was ripped up.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Yeah, the conduit I've had to run was more for making sure people with shovels didn't go and chop through it.

                                        The business owner loved having new plants (usually large ones) put in all the time. . .

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                          Depending on where you are, you might be required by law to put conduit and cover the conduit with cement and to put a notice flag in with it.

                                          I doubt this. Rarely is this needed for anything normal... generally you only see this with pressurized gas/steam lines, sewege, or underground high voltage, below a certain grade. One of the reasons it's so important to call your local utilities before you dig anything. For low volt comm direct bury generally meets code, at least in NY.

                                          Although I would still do a conduit for re-pulling purposes.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                            last edited by

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Cat5/6 100 meters:

                                            Which a small 8 port would work here, but is it worth putting in a switch and needing power there over just running fiber?

                                            You can get decent five ports, too. Even cheaper.

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