On-Premises soft PBX
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If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
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@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Pete-S said in On-Premises soft PBX:
We went with Yealink T41S. It's a simple business phone.
They're the same as T42S but 100Mbit instead of 1Gbit (who cares?) and a bit lower in cost.You care when you're using them as a passthrough for a PC. Then you only need one switch port instead of two.
That would be my case as well. It is very rare that we have a phone without a PC passed through the phone.
Makes sense I guess. We don't, so 100 Mbit phones are fine for us. PoE ports of course.
But there are probably a lot of cases where 100 Mbit passthrough would be fine as well. If you are using wifi for instance. Or if you don't have services on-prem and then you share the ISP bandwidth with everyone else.
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
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my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
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@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
Why?
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@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
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This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
-
Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
I did a quick search for spiceworld and didn't see it. If you find it, please post in this thread.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
-
This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
-
Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
I did a quick search for spiceworld and didn't see it. If you find it, please post in this thread.
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@JaredBusch Thanks!
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@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
Why?
It started with a an idea that we should have dual drops at all our offices, back when were just thinking of voip and we needed to redo the wiring anyways. But as it turned out, our phone system is completely isolated from our network, it's not even our equipment except for the cables. Unfortunately, this was before I saw the light and found ML. Now we are contractually obligated to have this terrible expensive phone system for the next 3-1/2 years. I will be switching when that contract is up, and then I can do whatever I want.
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@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
Why?
It started with a an idea that we should have dual drops at all our offices, back when were just thinking of voip and we needed to redo the wiring anyways. But as it turned out, our phone system is completely isolated from our network, it's not even our equipment except for the cables. Unfortunately, this was before I saw the light and found ML. Now we are contractually obligated to have this terrible expensive phone system for the next 3-1/2 years. I will be switching when that contract is up, and then I can do whatever I want.
inexperience^2
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@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Dashrender said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@Donahue said in On-Premises soft PBX:
my phones are on a completely physically separate network.
Why?
It started with a an idea that we should have dual drops at all our offices, back when were just thinking of voip and we needed to redo the wiring anyways. But as it turned out, our phone system is completely isolated from our network, it's not even our equipment except for the cables. Unfortunately, this was before I saw the light and found ML. Now we are contractually obligated to have this terrible expensive phone system for the next 3-1/2 years. I will be switching when that contract is up, and then I can do whatever I want.
inexperience^2
@Donahue - Your not alone so don't worry.
I will be changing in about 2 years myself. -
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
-
This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
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Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
I did a quick search for spiceworld and didn't see it. If you find it, please post in this thread.
Just finished it. Good stuff in there. I will be pursuing ditching my "traditional" provider in favor of sip next year.
I will also be considering ditching Shoretel. One major cost point is the desk phones. We have a lot of people that are more comfortable with having an actual desk phone. Do you (or anyone else) know if these ShoreTel phones would work with FreePBX?
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IP230G (uses MGCP)
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IP480G and IP485G
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
-
This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
-
Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
I did a quick search for spiceworld and didn't see it. If you find it, please post in this thread.
Just finished it. Good stuff in there. I will be pursuing ditching my "traditional" provider in favor of sip next year.
I will also be considering ditching Shoretel. One major cost point is the desk phones. We have a lot of people that are more comfortable with having an actual desk phone. Do you (or anyone else) know if these ShoreTel phones would work with FreePBX?
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IP230G (uses MGCP)
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IP480G and IP485G
I don't know - but you can always test it.
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@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@JaredBusch said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@scottalanmiller said in On-Premises soft PBX:
@wrx7m said in On-Premises soft PBX:
If you are going to deploy freepbx, would you-
- Do it on-prem, VPS or have it hosted (https://www.freepbx.org/store/hosted-freepbx/)?
- If doing your own deployment, use the FreePBX Distro or do it all manually?
Not sure if you are asking for general opinions or something specific to a scenario listed somewhere above. But here we go...
-
This depends on the customer and their needs and their calling patterns. Nearly always on Vultr cloud because of cost, features, and performance. Only very rarely does on prem make sense for a phone system.
-
Distro
That is what I was looking for.
Watch my video from SpiceWorld. I had a question about hosted or not. The answer to it is it depends on where oyu need your survivability at.
As for your own. You NEVER install something manually unless you have a very specific knowledge goal.
In the case of FreePBX, what are you trying to gain by setting it up manually? Do you even have a clue what that requires if you do not use the Distro? I can tell you it involves compiling asterisk yourself.
Thanks. I will look for your video. I wasn't sure based on the differences between other products, i.e. turn key or virtual appliances, where it can be problematic. I did see that manual involves compiling Asterisk and was definitely not going to do that myself.
I linked it here someplace in the last few days.
IF oyu can't find it, let me know.
I did a quick search for spiceworld and didn't see it. If you find it, please post in this thread.
Just finished it. Good stuff in there. I will be pursuing ditching my "traditional" provider in favor of sip next year.
I will also be considering ditching Shoretel. One major cost point is the desk phones. We have a lot of people that are more comfortable with having an actual desk phone. Do you (or anyone else) know if these ShoreTel phones would work with FreePBX?
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IP230G (uses MGCP)
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IP480G and IP485G
It's all about if the firmware has restrictions in place. You'll have to test and see if it works.
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Here is the official supported list.
https://wiki.freepbx.org/display/FPG/EPM-Supported+Devices -
Now, you can use any SIP compliant phone. but if oyu want to manage them through FreePBX, you need to stick to that list.
I'm about 60/40 on clients using EPM to manage phones.
