Low HDL Cholestrol :(
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@Dashrender Those symptoms sound like Vitamin D deficiency. I had a family member who went through that and it sounds very similar. As @Emad-R kind of diagnosed at the end of his post.
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If you need more Vitamin D, get more sun. I just eat more cereal with Vitamin D milk during the winter months and do more lawn work during the summer. I have many of the same symptoms as you but my HDL is fine so it may not be related. Mine is probably caused by to much beer. :winking_face:
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I have those same symptoms - and I take about 6-8000 IU a day of Vit D (in a pill).
Damn you guys are going to make me call my doctor for a copy of my last blood work.
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I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.
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@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:Low HDL is related to vitamin D
I wouldn't assume, I'd test specifically for vitamin D levels to make sure. It could be that, or it could be that plus other things on top of it. However, vitamin D is required and low levels help cause all kinds of problems, big and minor.
Here's where I'd give some great dietary, exercise, and sleep advice, backed by actual science and studies (not random articles from a random career journalist in it for the clicks), but I've been getting a lot of negative feedback for it lately, so I'm going to stop with it on here. However, you can search for my prior posts like this one.
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My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.
I dont know I feel like there is something I am missing, I like the red red Wine advice, but in my area it is frowned upon to drink
weird. But the keypoint is eat FISH and exercise and sun
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@pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.
Lucky genetics.
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Here is my last HDL and LDL results
I miss remembered.. HDL was low, but LDL was fine.
Again, they suggested I drink one 6 ounce glass of red wine daily. It will drive the HDL up, and the LDL down according to the doc.
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@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.
Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.
I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:
Study 1:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
Study2:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-newsVitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltextVitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.
But I will say that you are correct here:
@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:... exercise and sun
and diet of course.
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@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.
Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.
I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:
Study 1:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
Study2:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-newsVitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltextVitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.
But I will say that you are correct here:
@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:... exercise and sun
and diet of course.
Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?
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@Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.
Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.
I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:
Study 1:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
Study2:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-newsVitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltextVitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.
But I will say that you are correct here:
@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:... exercise and sun
and diet of course.
Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?
I'll clarify what I meant by my post:
His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.
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@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:xercise, and sleep well.
Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
I will try to get it from outside, but the weather for the last 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.
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@Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.
Lucky genetics.
Yeah. I suppose. Working on changing patterns as luck will always run out.
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Dude your more screwed than I, with 4.7 ratio, I am 4.3
You need to worry about Raising HDL and not lowering LDL. LDL is good to have in normal amount.
Consume olive oil. Extra virgin olive oil may be more healthful than processed olive oils. ...
Follow a low-carb or ketogenic diet. ...
Exercise regularly. ...
Stop smoking. ...
Lose weight. ...
Eat fatty fish often.
Avoid artificial trans fats -
@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:xercise, and sleep well.
Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat.
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@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:xercise, and sleep well.
Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.
I read this before, but you can still get Vitamin D made during cloudy weather, it just takes longer. The clouds if I remember correctly halve the UV energy (I need to re-verify this, but I think it's roughly accurate) that reaches your skin.
Perhaps much much smaller amounts of supplementation could help during those days. I believe it would be better than absolutely nothing at all.
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@pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat.
Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along
HEre is the past month here:
https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=tableit is not canada cold but still cold for us...
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@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.
Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.
I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:
Study 1:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
Study2:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-newsVitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltextVitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.
But I will say that you are correct here:
@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:... exercise and sun
and diet of course.
Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?
I'll clarify what I meant by my post:
His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.
This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.
I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week
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@Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:@pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol
:I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat.
Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along
HEre is the past month here:
https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=tableit is not canada cold but still cold for us...
LOL. My apologies. (In Celsius) Sweatshirt to 23.8, 43.3 in Vegas, Texas (higher humidity) or 38.3 in Mexico with humidity. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
Used Google converter.
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Oh also I forgot to tell you , i did wet cupping or hijamah recently, to improve blood cirulation
I understand it can freak ppl out, but I thought what the hell I want to try everything, the idea is that apparently we have filters or blood accumulation in the back, large of them, and donating blood helps and does similar effects but what this does is make them clot, and try to capture as much as possible toxin bloods , i liked it, the person and center was very clean and it is kinda in our tradition and religion. I heard Michael Phelps does the dry verison.
