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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

      No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

      a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

      Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

      I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

      No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

      c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

      That's promising then. Maybe in 5 years we'll have version 6 on everything where I work 😄 . It is telling that it took 6 versions to get that functionality.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
        last edited by

        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        That's promising then. Maybe in 5 years we'll have version 6 on everything where I work . It is telling that it took 6 versions to get that functionality.

        And how many decades to get PowerShell in the first place 😉

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @EddieJennings
          last edited by

          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

          No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

          a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

          Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

          I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

          This is one of my two major complaints with PowerShell. Modules that you just aren't told you need to load in so many guides, which Microsoft officially published many. They are working on a feature to automatically load a needed module on demand, like any decent management tool should.

          My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting. From a long-time UNIX user, this is frustrating. I know I just need to tell it to be sure, but that's just slowing me down.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            That's promising then. Maybe in 5 years we'll have version 6 on everything where I work . It is telling that it took 6 versions to get that functionality.

            And how many decades to get PowerShell in the first place 😉

            Well, it is called "Windows". 😉

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
              last edited by

              @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              This is one of my two major complaints with PowerShell. Modules that you just aren't told you need to load in so many guides, which Microsoft officially published many. They are working on a feature to automatically load a needed module on demand, like any decent management tool should.

              Don't forget ones that break. We have scripts that have worked for years, but you update Windows and suddenly they don't run any longer.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                last edited by

                @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting.

                True. It's very haphazard and amateur. Seems to lack a clear vision, more like a hodge-podge of different teams, visions, ideas. just thrown together and no one trying to make it all work.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                  No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                  a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                  Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                  I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                  This is one of my two major complaints with PowerShell. Modules that you just aren't told you need to load in so many guides, which Microsoft officially published many. They are working on a feature to automatically load a needed module on demand, like any decent management tool should.

                  My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting. From a long-time UNIX user, this is frustrating. I know I just need to tell it to be sure, but that's just slowing me down.

                  When the output is an object (which is true I think almost all the time), I find the object useful. I haven't had the experience in the text-only output world to know what I'm missing there.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @EddieJennings
                    last edited by

                    @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                    No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                    a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                    Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                    I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                    No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                    c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

                    That's promising then. Maybe in 5 years we'll have version 6 on everything where I work 😄 . It is telling that it took 6 versions to get that functionality.

                    PowerShell 7 is on its way with some sweet (and much needed) functionality.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting.

                      True. It's very haphazard and amateur. Seems to lack a clear vision, more like a hodge-podge of different teams, visions, ideas. just thrown together and no one trying to make it all work.

                      It's always objects unless you purposely make it old school text, like when you mix in cmd. Exe commands.

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                      • wrx7mW
                        wrx7m
                        last edited by

                        Dealing with this shitty Chinese software that "interacts" with Amazon. It doesn't work because it won't update from the server (throwing 403 error). Everything is in Chinese and support is only available during Chinese day time and in Chinese only. Their own support can't fix it and now this marketing person wants me to uninstall and reinstall it.

                        You can't even run it without running as admin, so I had to create a Microsoft application compatibility exception just to get it to run in a regular user's account. Also, you have to switch the entire OS to Chinese to get it to accept the serial number.

                        I don't trust this thing so much that I have a non-domain joined system that is connected to our guest wifi network.

                        Waste of time/money.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
                          last edited by

                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                          No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                          a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                          Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                          I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                          This is one of my two major complaints with PowerShell. Modules that you just aren't told you need to load in so many guides, which Microsoft officially published many. They are working on a feature to automatically load a needed module on demand, like any decent management tool should.

                          My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting. From a long-time UNIX user, this is frustrating. I know I just need to tell it to be sure, but that's just slowing me down.

                          When the output is an object (which is true I think almost all the time), I find the object useful. I haven't had the experience in the text-only output world to know what I'm missing there.

                          Ease of use, obvious use cases. Text is SO fast and SO easy. Object is more powerful, and I appreciate the reasons that they thought that OOP was the future (because they listened to every two bit 1990s Java professor) but in the real world of systems administration, it makes little to no sense and just causes endless problems.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                            No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                            a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                            Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                            I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                            No, nothing new or fancy... just plain old PS6:

                            c96854f2-bfba-41d6-8c9d-8d0d5c4adb64-image.png

                            That's promising then. Maybe in 5 years we'll have version 6 on everything where I work 😄 . It is telling that it took 6 versions to get that functionality.

                            PowerShell 7 is on its way with some sweet (and much needed) functionality.

                            that's cool

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                            • hobbit666H
                              hobbit666 @dbeato
                              last edited by hobbit666

                              @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              The Dell X Series is a little bit old by now. At least they don't sell it anymore in Premier

                              2019-04-08_1212.png
                              2019-04-08_1212_001.png

                              Still showing when you navigate the website.
                              https://www.dell.com/en-uk/work/shop/networking/sc/networking-products/switches

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @hobbit666
                                last edited by

                                @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                The Dell X Series is a little bit old by now. At least they don't sell it anymore in Premier

                                2019-04-08_1212.png
                                2019-04-08_1212_001.png

                                Still showing when you navigate the website.
                                https://www.dell.com/en-uk/work/shop/networking/sc/networking-products/switches

                                Yeah, the annoying part is
                                125914b4-fcb5-44c4-8ad8-7c1f093f10d7-image.png

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  @hobbit666 I have one of those in my garage.

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                                  • hobbit666H
                                    hobbit666 @dbeato
                                    last edited by

                                    @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Yeah, the annoying part is
                                    125914b4-fcb5-44c4-8ad8-7c1f093f10d7-image.png

                                    Luckily they show on our supplier website
                                    The Dell X1052p £600

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @hobbit666
                                      last edited by

                                      @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Yeah, the annoying part is
                                      125914b4-fcb5-44c4-8ad8-7c1f093f10d7-image.png

                                      Luckily they show on our supplier website
                                      The Dell X1052p £600

                                      I never used the X-Series, but whatever the series was right before it seemed like it was solid.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @black3dynamite yeah, PowerShell is still stuck in like 1982 here.

                                        No, I think all of you are stuck in 1982 while PowerShell has moved on...

                                        a21658d1-25a9-4708-9463-bb57020fc88c-image.png

                                        Unless there's a bleeding-edge version of Powershell out now that has that cmdlet, it doesn't seem to be native for 5.1.

                                        I know there's a module out there that does what your picture shows, but it would be nice if that was just baked-in.

                                        This is one of my two major complaints with PowerShell. Modules that you just aren't told you need to load in so many guides, which Microsoft officially published many. They are working on a feature to automatically load a needed module on demand, like any decent management tool should.

                                        My other complaint is output. I never quite know if a given output is going to be text, csv, or some other formatting. From a long-time UNIX user, this is frustrating. I know I just need to tell it to be sure, but that's just slowing me down.

                                        When the output is an object (which is true I think almost all the time), I find the object useful. I haven't had the experience in the text-only output world to know what I'm missing there.

                                        Ease of use, obvious use cases. Text is SO fast and SO easy. Object is more powerful, and I appreciate the reasons that they thought that OOP was the future (because they listened to every two bit 1990s Java professor) but in the real world of systems administration, it makes little to no sense and just causes endless problems.

                                        I feel they both have their place in their own world. I would rather manage MS / Windows as objects than text based output. For me it would be a lot less convenient to manipulate the data for Windows from BASH cli. You do very different things in Linux than you do in Windows. They are built so differently and in this case, I think PS is a better tool. I feel the same in a mixed environment of Windows/Linux. Yes BASH for managing Linux, but PowerShell for managing anything MS/Windows, and PowerShell (Core) for managing Windows from Linux.

                                        I don't notice a speed difference when done properly.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          PowerShell (Core) for managing Windows from Linux.

                                          Having tried it both ways, using Bash on Linux to reduce the overhead of PS is a big benefit to adding it into the mix.

                                          PS has some nice stuff, but it's like "Windows seems hard because of PS, but PS seems to deal with it well." But at the end of the day, most of Windows issues seem to be intentionally being extra hard, then making extra hard solutions to justify it. How much of Windows needing the overhead of PowerShell is caused by Windows having PowerShell and wanting it to seem reasonable to have designed it like they did? So a circular problem of PowerShell is hard and we need to justify it by making Windows hard, Windows is now harder and we need PowerShell, and so on.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller I need some warm choco chip cookies and a big glass of cold milk

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