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    Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?

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      Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

      Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

      No, Windows just isn't up to the job. That the backups will talk over SMB is not really a factor, Synology is Linux, too. All enterprise storage options are Linux based (or BSD based) and use Samba as their interface layer. So it's really the only possibility.

      Thats fine. I meant for the clients backing up to this target. They are Windows.

      I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives, and see what PCM say if I cant figure it out.

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        scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

        I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives,

        Chassis.

        Only WD makes drives for you.

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          Jimmy9008
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          Yep, i forgot the ',' lol

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            scottalanmiller
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            This is one of your few possible drives...

            https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc530.pdf

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              Jimmy9008
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              Something like: SC847E16-R1K28LPB on SuperMicro?

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                scottalanmiller
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                This is another drive that you could consider. 15TB optimized for sequential workloads.

                https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc600-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc620.pdf

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                  scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                  SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                  Yes, that's definitely an option.

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                    Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                    SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                    Yes, that's definitely an option.

                    Ok, i'll look in to that.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      I still very much doubt that you'll be able to get that much hardware for your price point.

                      Even with Supermicro being a great contender here, your disks cost is going to be sky high.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
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                        Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $11,279.76.

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                          Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                          Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $6,325.

                          Just had a look now:

                          24 * DC HC530 inc VAT = £12,503.53
                          1 x SC847E16-R1K28LPB inc VAT = £1,655.99

                          Total: £14,159.52

                          Just need to configure it in house.

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                            DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                            @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                            SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                            CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

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                              Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                              @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                              SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                              CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                              I assumed that is already within the device?

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                                scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                I assumed that is already within the device?

                                You would have specs if so. What you linked looked only like the chassis.

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                                  DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                  CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                  I assumed that is already within the device?

                                  Chassis is just the chassis. . . not the guts.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403
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                                    Those are the MB's that the chassis can fit.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                      CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                      I assumed that is already within the device?

                                      Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.

                                      https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                      SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403
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                                        You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.

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                                          Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                          CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                          I assumed that is already within the device?

                                          Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.

                                          https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                          SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.

                                          Would that PCM work also include OS setup/setting up the file system? So we just rack it in the office and turn it on...

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                                            Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                            You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.

                                            Makes sense, ill keep looking. This we could make a saving my getting smaller drives, say 8TB, but more of them?

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