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    • FiyaFlyF
      FiyaFly
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      We all know that we can always improve on documentation, which makes me wonder- is it actually possible to be as up to date on documentation as you actually want to be or is it truly meant to be one of those elusive goals that you must constantly strive for?

      When I look around, I can think of countless forms I could create, a multitude of documents on X system or Y project, and not to mention updating old piles of documents. Has nayone actually gotten on top of their documentation to a point where they were satisfied?

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      • KatieK
        Katie @FiyaFly
        last edited by

        @FiyaFly I think it's the kind of thing that requires upkeep as you go along. Wait too long, and you might not be able to recall all the salient details that need to be included. (or you'll need really stellar notes!)
        I try to keep lists of pending documentation work so I don't forget anything.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen Banned
          last edited by Minion Queen

          I keep a planner open on my desk with a running list of things I need to update. As our systems become more integrated here at NTG I find it much easier to keep track of things and get things in the proper place. Email my self information so I can attach it to an account in CRM seems to be the easiest for me.

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          • DuffneyD
            Duffney
            last edited by Duffney

            You could spend your whole life documenting every little thing. Here are a few questions I ask myself before creating a document. Can this be easily memorized? Will I forgot this completely before I have to do it again? Can I share this with others to do the work for me? Would this be something I'd likely be doing again? and the best one "Is it worth my time to create this document". Many variables answer the last question.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              And I never document common knowledge. It is a big temptation to document how to do everyday tasks that should be part of the job description rather than something unique to the organization.

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              • FiyaFlyF
                FiyaFly @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller I believe that depends on the area of work you do. L1 helpdesk? Document everything in my opinion. Honestly I got hired with more ambition than applicable experience, so it was mostly trial by fire for me.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @FiyaFly
                  last edited by

                  @FiyaFly said:

                  @scottalanmiller I believe that depends on the area of work you do. L1 helpdesk? Document everything in my opinion. Honestly I got hired with more ambition than applicable experience, so it was mostly trial by fire for me.

                  Even so. You can't document the job itself. Once you are repeating industry documentation you are playing a game of doing a lot of work and providing nearly zero value - possibly negative value.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Part of what you have to consider is that documentation has a cost. Making documentation that has no value still has a cost to maintain. Documentation gets old, especially if you are documenting industry practices. For example, if you document how to do a normal task in Windows today, and you hardly ever look at that documentation because you can just Google it or people just know it, then that procedure changes because of a new release or change of tool or whatever, now you have documentation that was previously valueless but today is a risk. All that effort to create, store and search knowledge that is wrong. That's not good.

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      The big problem with not documenting what YOU think should be common knowledge may not be so common. So over documentation is better than not enough

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
                        last edited by

                        @Minion-Queen said:

                        The big problem with not documenting what YOU think should be common knowledge may not be so common. So over documentation is better than not enough

                        Not common knowledge, but industry knowledge. If you are duplicating Technet or the Red Hat Admin manual, for example, you are just making lower quality copies of existing knowledge. Anything that is standard and universal shouldn't be documented internally. It carries a lot of risk. Decent chance that it is just wrong, high chance that it will never be used because why would someone look internally first, almost certain chance that it will become dated and nearly certain that the cost to maintain will make it always negative.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          One of the biggest problems with documenting industry knowledge is that it will never end. There is so much to potentially document. You will eventually document more than can be maintained. And the internal documentation has no chance of being the "master", it will always be second class to public documentation (like Technet.) It will never become the reference standard. You will always be challenged by a combination of people not bothering to look at internal docs because external ones are higher quality, finding internal documents is harder than finding the originals (via Google), the cost of using special internal docs is higher than standard ones (that people use at home, at other jobs, etc.) and just not realizing when they can or cannot use them.

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                          • ?
                            A Former User
                            last edited by

                            Also, never document something someone has already documented. IE Google first

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @A Former User
                              last edited by

                              @Aaron-Studer said:

                              Also, never document something someone has already documented. IE Google first

                              Yeah, that's kind of what I was saying. If someone else is already maintaining that documentation for you, don't do it again. At best, link to the public site or make a cached copy if you need to.

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                              • RoguePacketR
                                RoguePacket
                                last edited by RoguePacket

                                @fiyafly It is a business maturity component. Documentation fits into several larger pieces such as DR (disaster recovery) and BCP (business continuity planning). Another way to view it is not having documentation is a risk. Senior business management needs to accommodate the risk level accordingly (i.e., BCP which trickle down).

                                Having things streamlined helps reduce duplication of effort. Duplication can be by multiple people, or the documentation existing in multiple systems (e.g., printed docs and the change control system). Time is always a notable constraint

                                Reasonable ways to assess documentation satisfaction level is:

                                • during a periodic review (annual is preferred);
                                • when a new employee comes on board;
                                • when an experienced employee separates; and,
                                • when bad things happen.

                                Triple constraint concept and good-fast-cheap apply to the quality and effort applied to documentation—
                                triple-constraint.jpg

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                                • LadyJaneL
                                  LadyJane
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                                  I like to use Evernote for quick note taking on my mobile while away from my desk.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Evernote is pretty slick. I just use Onenote for that though.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      No one else here mentioned this, but I document everything for myself.

                                      I document projects, daily tasks, common fix-its, and etc for myself. It does a few things for you. It shows you are a team player, it shows your value, it shows other potential employers your value, and you can CYA if anything ever goes wrong.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @IRJ said:

                                        No one else here mentioned this, but I document everything for myself.

                                        I document projects, daily tasks, common fix-its, and etc for myself. It does a few things for you. It shows you are a team player, it shows your value, it shows other potential employers your value, and you can CYA if anything ever goes wrong.

                                        Also shows that you have a lot of spare time 😉

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