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    • IRJI
      IRJ
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      https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-locking-down-iphone-batteries/?ftag=CAD-03-10abf6j

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      • brandon220B
        brandon220
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        I'm fine with this. Everyone gets screens and batteries replaced from questionable repair shops and the phones never work the same again.

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        • IRJI
          IRJ @brandon220
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          @brandon220 said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

          I'm fine with this. Everyone gets screens and batteries replaced from questionable repair shops and the phones never work the same again.

          Just because you're fine with it. Does it mean people should lose the ability to repair their own devices? Should the manufacturer of a vehicle only be able to work on that vehicle and solely corner the market on parts?

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          • kamidonK
            kamidon @IRJ
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            @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

            @brandon220 said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

            I'm fine with this. Everyone gets screens and batteries replaced from questionable repair shops and the phones never work the same again.

            Just because you're fine with it. Does it mean people should lose the ability to repair their own devices? Should the manufacturer of a vehicle only be able to work on that vehicle and solely corner the market on parts?

            Great questions, but at the same time, I believe people can just buy another device if they don't like what Apple does.

            Laws that prevent manufacturers from doing what they want are certainly ridiculous, not to get side-tracked.
            While it's great being able to repair a device, I think a vendor should be able to do whatever they want to stay as profitable as possible.

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              marcinozga
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              The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

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              • kamidonK
                kamidon @marcinozga
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                @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @marcinozga
                  last edited by

                  @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                  The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                  Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

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                  • kamidonK
                    kamidon @IRJ
                    last edited by

                    @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                    Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                    Wouldn't surprise me. It's Apple we're talking about lol.

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                      marcinozga @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                      @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                      The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                      Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                      Do you have source for that claim? I know they did that with fingerprint readers, but that was a valid move. They do make their hardware harder and harder to fix, but I don't recall any claims that they were actually blocking 3rd party parts, with some exceptions where it would compromise security, like with above fingerprint reader.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                        @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                        The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                        Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                        Sure, and I'm fine with it regarding something that is security based - like the fingerprint sensor. Only genuine parts can you be mostly assured don't have any shinanigans going on in them.

                        But a battery? fine - disable battery diag, whatever, but the phone should still work, and shouldn't harass me about it more than one time after I power on the device.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @marcinozga
                          last edited by

                          @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                          @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                          @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                          The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                          Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                          Do you have source for that claim? I know they did that with fingerprint readers, but that was a valid move. They do make their hardware harder and harder to fix, but I don't recall any claims that they were actually blocking 3rd party parts, with some exceptions where it would compromise security, like with above fingerprint reader.

                          https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/19/17478294/apple-australia-court-fee-error-53-fix

                          Apparently they fixed that

                          There was also the lockdown of the Macbooks as you mentioned. It isnt out of the realm of what Apple will do. They could even claim 3rd party batteries are dangerous (they can be).

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                            @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                            @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                            @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                            The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                            Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                            Do you have source for that claim? I know they did that with fingerprint readers, but that was a valid move. They do make their hardware harder and harder to fix, but I don't recall any claims that they were actually blocking 3rd party parts, with some exceptions where it would compromise security, like with above fingerprint reader.

                            They could even claim 3rd party batteries are dangerous (they can be).

                            They are dangerous... to Apple's profit margin. They didn't spend a gazillion ad dollars creating their whole "pay more for it because it's what all the cool kids use" thing so you could save a few bucks on a battery replacement. I'm actually shocked that they haven't announced that installing 3rd party batteries voids your warranty.

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                            • kamidonK
                              kamidon @RojoLoco
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                              @RojoLoco said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                              @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                              @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                              @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                              @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                              The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                              Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                              Do you have source for that claim? I know they did that with fingerprint readers, but that was a valid move. They do make their hardware harder and harder to fix, but I don't recall any claims that they were actually blocking 3rd party parts, with some exceptions where it would compromise security, like with above fingerprint reader.

                              They could even claim 3rd party batteries are dangerous (they can be).

                              They are dangerous... to Apple's profit margin. They didn't spend a gazillion ad dollars creating their whole "pay more for it because it's what all the cool kids use" thing so you could save a few bucks on a battery replacement. I'm actually shocked that they haven't announced that installing 3rd party batteries voids your warranty.

                              Yeah I never cared for Apple's dictatorship-esque treament of their products.
                              Even down to OSX (or whatever it is now, is it XI yet?) or iOS, you're so restricted, it's like wearing handcuffs.
                              Apple makes me thankful for Microsoft's latest CEO being so open to utilizing various other third party vendors and creators.

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                                marcinozga @RojoLoco
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                                @RojoLoco said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                @IRJ said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                Yes, but Apple has talked about actually locking out 3rd party parts before

                                Do you have source for that claim? I know they did that with fingerprint readers, but that was a valid move. They do make their hardware harder and harder to fix, but I don't recall any claims that they were actually blocking 3rd party parts, with some exceptions where it would compromise security, like with above fingerprint reader.

                                They could even claim 3rd party batteries are dangerous (they can be).

                                They are dangerous... to Apple's profit margin. They didn't spend a gazillion ad dollars creating their whole "pay more for it because it's what all the cool kids use" thing so you could save a few bucks on a battery replacement. I'm actually shocked that they haven't announced that installing 3rd party batteries voids your warranty.

                                These batteries can be dangerous. They are cheap garbage in most cases, built in some Chinese sweatshop without any quality control in place. Remember a girl that got 3rd degree burns from exploding battery in her Samsung phone? Yup, 3rd party battery. Or how about BestBuy recalling 5000 Macbook Pro replacement batteries? Cheap junk again.

                                And installing 3rd party battery does void the warranty, that shouldn't require any explanation. You need to open the case, and that alone voids warranty. But this isn't something anyone would be concerned with anyway, if you have warranty, why would you pay for 3rd party repairs when Apple will do it for free?

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @kamidon
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                                  @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                  @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                  The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                  Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

                                  So we can assume most of your replies are ignorant?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @Dashrender said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                    Sure, and I'm fine with it regarding something that is security based - like the fingerprint senso

                                    I'm not okay with that, either. I'm not okay with it ever.

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                                    • kamidonK
                                      kamidon @Obsolesce
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                                      @Obsolesce said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                      @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                      @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                      The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                      Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

                                      So we can assume most of your replies are ignorant?

                                      Regarding that specific article, sure.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                        @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                        @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                        The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                        Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

                                        So we can assume most of your replies are ignorant?

                                        Pretty much yes.

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                                        • kamidonK
                                          kamidon @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                          @Obsolesce said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                          @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                          @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                          The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                          Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

                                          So we can assume most of your replies are ignorant?

                                          Pretty much yes.

                                          Niiiiiiice burn 😉

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @kamidon
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                                            @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                            @kamidon said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                            @marcinozga said in Apple locking down iPhone batteries:

                                            The title is nothing but a click-bait. Apple is not locking down batteries, it's displaying a message that it's unable to diagnose battery health, which is not surprising, since replacement batteries are probably lacking diagnostic chip that's present in original batteries. Your replacement battery will continue to work just fine.

                                            Haha thanks, yeah I have 0 interest in reading an article about iPhones.

                                            So we can assume most of your replies are ignorant?

                                            Pretty much yes.

                                            Niiiiiiice burn 😉

                                            Just fucking stop. Almost zero things that have come out of your account today have been in anyway intelligent or helpful.

                                            If you want to spew random shit on the forum, we have a thread for that.

                                            But keep it out of actual threads where people want to actually have a conversation.

                                            Grow the fuck up.

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