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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @syko24
      last edited by

      @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

      @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

      Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

      If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

      huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
        last edited by

        @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

        @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

        @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

        Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

        If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

        huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

        Iron mountain is pretty damn cheap and it takes the liability off of the practitioner.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

          @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

          @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

          @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

          Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

          If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

          huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

          Iron mountain is pretty damn cheap and it takes the liability off of the practitioner.

          Not really, but it does allow the practitioner to assign those resources that were shredding before to hopefully do something of greater value.

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          • syko24S
            syko24 @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

            @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

            @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

            @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

            Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

            If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

            huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

            Iron mountain is pretty damn cheap and it takes the liability off of the practitioner.

            They do use IronMountain. I don't know the cost off the top of my head but it's not that much.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @syko24
              last edited by

              @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

              @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

              @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

              @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

              @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

              Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

              If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

              huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

              Iron mountain is pretty damn cheap and it takes the liability off of the practitioner.

              They do use IronMountain. I don't know the cost off the top of my head but it's not that much.

              Two lucky guesses in a single topic, I'm on a roll!

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @syko24
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                @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                Why in God's green earth would you deploy XP today? Or would you continue to operate Windows XP?

                The system it runs has an $80,000 camera on it

                Also this seems insane that the customer has an $80,000 camera, but can't or won't purchase an updated system to run it.

                Medical equipment. That was the price of the current camera. The newer ones are even more ridiculous.

                Windows XP and PHI.... What could go wrong?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                  @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                  Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

                  If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

                  huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

                  So do people who use most of those services. What the services do is not necessarily offsite shredding, although that does exist for sure, but offsite disposal so that people can't dumpster dive you to reassemble your shredded documents.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                    @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                    @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                    Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

                    If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

                    huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

                    So do people who use most of those services. What the services do is not necessarily offsite shredding, although that does exist for sure, but offsite disposal so that people can't dumpster dive you to reassemble your shredded documents.

                    Yeah, I suppose if you need to be that secure - that's the way to go.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                      @Dashrender said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                      @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                      Which I'm positive that this doctors office is paying for secure document destruction right? Peoples pictures/scans getting printed off and then rescanned and saved to a EMR. . .

                      If you are asking me then yes they have a service that destroys the images/documents.

                      huh - must be a pretty big office then... hardly seems worth a service to pickup your shredding. Our staff shreds their bins worth of PHI themselves.

                      So do people who use most of those services. What the services do is not necessarily offsite shredding, although that does exist for sure, but offsite disposal so that people can't dumpster dive you to reassemble your shredded documents.

                      Yeah, I suppose if you need to be that secure - that's the way to go.

                      Right, just shredding is for HIPAA. Offsite combination with millions of other shredded documents is for security.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce
                        last edited by Obsolesce

                        If you use one of these, you don't need to lock your car door anymore!

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                        Maybe not even need doors!

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Obsolesce said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                          If you use one of these, you don't need to lock your car door anymore!

                          Until someone just steals your wallet sitting on the seat.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                            @Obsolesce said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                            If you use one of these, you don't need to lock your car door anymore!

                            Until someone just steals your wallet sitting on the seat.

                            Lol exactly.

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                            • PhlipElderP
                              PhlipElder @syko24
                              last edited by

                              @syko24 said in Is SMB 1.0 more vulnerable at the client level or server level:

                              On Windows 10 you can enable SMB1.0 Server or Client. Does enabling just the client side make the Windows 10 system vulnerable? What I am trying to figure out is if I have a special machine running XP and need to pull data from a share on it, can I enable SMB 1.0 client on a Windows 10 machine, connect a crossover cable and have the 10 machine pull data from the XP share safely? The 10 machine would then move the copied data onto the primary server running Windows Server 2016.

                              If this is a horrible idea are there any suggestions to make this a secure setup other than replacing the XP machine.

                              Thanks

                              Both. We've seen Emotet gobble up an entire network where nothing has been done to patch for EternalBlue which is the exploit in SMBv1.

                              We remove it _everywhere we manage a network on all endpoints. Period. Full Stop.

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