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    Im a webhosting noob and need some help

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    • IRJI
      IRJ @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      You need to start by separating your services. First, move your DNS hosting to a third party like CloudFlare (free, and awesome.). That needs to be done and stable before you consider anything else.

      Are you talking about moving my domain or just pointing it?

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @IRJ
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @IRJ said:

        Do i need to purchase another domain in the meantime?

        No, you will just access the site on the new host via IP or some temporary sub domain name.

        Example of something we are doing for a client:
        Old Live site hosted with Network Solutions 😞 : http://acidist.com
        New Beta site hosted on Azure 🙂 : http://beta.acidist.com

        Once we work out the bugs in the beta, we will change the DNS for the @ record and poof everyone suddenly starts flowing to the new design.

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        • T
          technobabble @IRJ
          last edited by technobabble

          @IRJ said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Whoa. Stop. NO legit host would ever ask you to transfer your domain. That's a scam.

          Ok I have 3 options

          "I want to register for a new domain"
          "I want to transfer my domain"
          "I will update my nameservers on an exsisting domain or I will register a new domain"

          I presume the 3 options here are what you see at 1&1 domain panel? No worries...just find a new registrar and use that new registrar to transfer your domain.

          Worry about pointing dns until after domain is transferred to new domain registrar.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @technobabble
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            @technobabble said:

            I presume the 3 options here are what you see at 1&1 domain panel? No worries...just find a new registrar and use that new registrar to transfer your domain.

            Worry about pointing dns until after domain is transferred to new domain registrar.

            Why transfer the domain at all, unless he's unhappy with 1&1 as a registrar.

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              technobabble @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              @technobabble said:

              I presume the 3 options here are what you see at 1&1 domain panel? No worries...just find a new registrar and use that new registrar to transfer your domain.

              Worry about pointing dns until after domain is transferred to new domain registrar.

              Why transfer the domain at all, unless he's unhappy with 1&1 as a registrar.

              Why indeed...I presume I felt as he was bailing from 1&1 completely....so if not...the above not necessary. @IRJ will just need to update the nameservers to point to his new host or do as @scottalanmiller said.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                You run the two sites side by side and then switch over with DNS when you are ready. You don't repoint DNS until the new site is 100%.

                Do i need to purchase another domain in the meantime?

                No. There should be no domain purchases or changes.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  You need to start by separating your services. First, move your DNS hosting to a third party like CloudFlare (free, and awesome.). That needs to be done and stable before you consider anything else.

                  Are you talking about moving my domain or just pointing it?

                  I'm talking about changing your DNS host. Nothing more. Not changing registrar nor reprinting DNS.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    It's fine to bail on 1and1 and move to GoDaddy or whomever but there is no need and even if you do, this isn't the time for that.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      It's fine to bail on 1and1 and move to GoDaddy or whomever but there is no need and even if you do, this isn't the time for that.

                      Yes definitely don't do all of these things at the same time, you'll have a nightmare on your hands.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Yes, each step is something to do alone. And changing the Registrar doesn't need to be done at all.

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                        • bsouderB
                          bsouder
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                          I would use someone else. While having things in one place is nice, you should not be forced to move your domain. The update your name servers is the right choice to maintain your domain and DNS other than at your web provider. It is not hard to do, but can be confusing your first time through. You might want to make contact with your domain registrar for help.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @bsouder
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                            @bsouder said:

                            I would use someone else. While having things in one place is nice, you should not be forced to move your domain. The update your name servers is the right choice to maintain your domain and DNS other than at your web provider. It is not hard to do, but can be confusing your first time through. You might want to make contact with your domain registrar for help.

                            Thanks. That is exactly what I did.

                            Unfortunately, I am going to have to rebuild my website. I sold most of my inventory on it anyways. So rebuilding it wont be too bad.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Why do you have to rebuild things?

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                              • IRJI
                                IRJ @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                Why do you have to rebuild things?

                                I could migrate the site over, but it may take just as long if not longer. I had 22 items in the entire store inventory and now I am down to 9 items

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
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                                  This is the migration process

                                  http://isenselabs.com/posts/step-by-step-opencart-migration-to-a-new-server

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                    @IRJ said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    Why do you have to rebuild things?

                                    I could migrate the site over, but it may take just as long if not longer. I had 22 items in the entire store inventory and now I am down to 9 items

                                    Oh okay, so you don't have to. Yes, migrating systems always takes a bit because there is a database to move.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IRJ said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      Why do you have to rebuild things?

                                      I could migrate the site over, but it may take just as long if not longer. I had 22 items in the entire store inventory and now I am down to 9 items

                                      Oh okay, so you don't have to. Yes, migrating systems always takes a bit because there is a database to move.

                                      Correct.

                                      If I had a huge store with lots of inventory, then I would have to migrate.

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