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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      If you really wanted to go down the expensive, close sourced option, why not just setup a really large Microsoft Windows 2019 Server and use VSS. . .

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      • notverypunnyN
        notverypunny
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        OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @notverypunny
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          @notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:

          OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.

          So Microsoft is off the table 😉

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
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            So your boss is looking for a throat to choke if things go sideways. Or is he looking for a provider who simply has support channels?

            What about something like Zmanda?

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              notverypunny @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

              @notverypunny are you trying to build a solution that lives on premise? Are you considering skipping the 3-2-1 rule entirely?

              Possible setup would be an appliance here at the main site connected to an LTO-8 tape setup with sync to the cloud and maybe another sync with our Toronto office.

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                notverypunny @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                So your boss is looking for a throat to choke if things go sideways. Or is he looking for a provider who simply has support channels?

                Yes to both... wants to be able to throw someone under the bus as opposed to having his head cut off.

                What about something like Zmanda?

                Interesting, I'll have to dig into it. I'd looked at their community stuff before hadn't spent much time on the supported / enterprise-level options.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @notverypunny
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                  @notverypunny so 500TB on premise, connected to Tape that someone carries home, to cloud as well and then to a remote office?

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                  • notverypunnyN
                    notverypunny @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                    @notverypunny so 500TB on premise, connected to Tape that someone carries home, to cloud as well and then to a remote office?

                    Not 500 TB and the tapes would live in a fire-safe on-site but otherwise that's one of the rough outlines that we're looking at.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
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                      What is your daily delta? 1GB - 1TB? I think you're going to encounter major bottlenecks with trying to move all of this.

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                      • notverypunnyN
                        notverypunny
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                        Don't know if we'd be syncing off-site and cloud daily. We're already syncing to TO and it's taking about 4 to 6 hrs daily IIRC. Just checked with our backup lead and daily delta typically runs anywhere from 200GB to 500GB.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @notverypunny
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                          @notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:

                          Don't know if we'd be syncing off-site and cloud daily. We're already syncing to TO and it's taking about 4 to 6 hrs daily IIRC. Just checked with our backup lead and daily delta typically runs anywhere from 200GB to 500GB.

                          So you probably aren't going to be syncing this daily, unless you have really good internet. Do you?

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                          • DustinB3403D
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                            Which if you aren't sync regularly, this means that you'd have much longer sync times when your backup does run. Only compounding the issue.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                              @notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:

                              OK, maybe I mis-spoke. Nothing community / unsupported.

                              Oh, that's entirely different. No connection to open source there. Open source has more support, not less.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                                So your boss is looking for a throat to choke if things go sideways. Or is he looking for a provider who simply has support channels?

                                What about something like Zmanda?

                                Don't think Zmanda has been making appliances, have they?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                                  @notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                                  @notverypunny are you trying to build a solution that lives on premise? Are you considering skipping the 3-2-1 rule entirely?

                                  Possible setup would be an appliance here at the main site connected to an LTO-8 tape setup with sync to the cloud and maybe another sync with our Toronto office.

                                  Datto is a major appliance maker. Unitrends you already know. StorageCraft has appliances now, they bought OneBlox to get their tech for that, some damn cool stuff.

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                                  • wrx7mW
                                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:

                                    @notverypunny said in All in one backup appliances:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                                    @notverypunny are you trying to build a solution that lives on premise? Are you considering skipping the 3-2-1 rule entirely?

                                    Possible setup would be an appliance here at the main site connected to an LTO-8 tape setup with sync to the cloud and maybe another sync with our Toronto office.

                                    Datto is a major appliance maker. Unitrends you already know. StorageCraft has appliances now, they bought OneBlox to get their tech for that, some damn cool stuff.

                                    I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                      @wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:

                                      I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.

                                      So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in All in one backup appliances:

                                        Don't think Zmanda has been making appliances, have they?

                                        Not sure, but as a solutions vendor the name has been around for ever and works with just about everything.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @DustinB3403
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                                          @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                                          @wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:

                                          I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.

                                          So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?

                                          Sure. I have been. Then, if I didn't like the backup vendor, I can re-purpose it for someone else's product.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @wrx7m
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                                            @wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in All in one backup appliances:

                                            @wrx7m said in All in one backup appliances:

                                            I would think that having a branded appliance would be too confining.

                                            So you want to be able to bring your own kit to the party?

                                            Sure. I have been. Then, if I didn't like the backup vendor, I can re-purpose it for someone else's product.

                                            So you aren't specifically looking for an appliance. (Appliances you buy). Scale Computing offers appliances as an example.

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