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    • WrCombsW
      WrCombs @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

      so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

      Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

      Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

      Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

      I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

      if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

      So ridiculous. Since you have your choice of OSes... go for Ubuntu!

      Not on the work computer I have to have windows.

      Put it in a VM 😉

      LOL then when I leave just leave the OS on there and have them all confused.. Ha ! 🤣

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @WrCombs
        last edited by

        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

        so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

        Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

        Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

        Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

        I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

        if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

        So ridiculous. Since you have your choice of OSes... go for Ubuntu!

        Not on the work computer I have to have windows.

        Put it in a VM 😉

        LOL then when I leave just leave the OS on there and have them all confused.. Ha ! 🤣

        No one should be confused by a hypervisor. They aren't magical unicorns.

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        • WrCombsW
          WrCombs @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

          so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

          Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

          Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

          Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

          I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

          if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

          So ridiculous. Since you have your choice of OSes... go for Ubuntu!

          Not on the work computer I have to have windows.

          Put it in a VM 😉

          LOL then when I leave just leave the OS on there and have them all confused.. Ha ! 🤣

          No one should be confused by a hypervisor. They aren't magical unicorns.

          did you forget where I work?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @scottalanmiller said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @DustinB3403 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

            so, Doing a fresh install of Windows 10 Home ; And it does not give me an option to create without a Microsoft account.

            Disconnect from the Internet and then go back a step and try again.

            Will no allow me to go back and disconnect from Internet.. I'm using work Wifi So I can't take it down ..

            Is this even an option on Windows 10 Home edition? I'm honestly curious (not trying to start another WTF are you doing argument).

            I would've thought Microsoft would simply have eliminated the local account functionality.

            if you're connected to the internet at time of set up- it looks like you can't set up local accounts.

            So ridiculous. Since you have your choice of OSes... go for Ubuntu!

            Not on the work computer I have to have windows.

            Put it in a VM 😉

            LOL then when I leave just leave the OS on there and have them all confused.. Ha ! 🤣

            No one should be confused by a hypervisor. They aren't magical unicorns.

            did you forget where I work?

            I forgot you had a job, yes. 🙂

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
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              @WrCombs

              Win10 1903 Home with Internet connection

              6b472a48-aa08-4d56-95fe-f17e9e39cef3-image.png

              Win10 1903 Home without Internet connection
              Press Shift + F10 to open command prompt and type ipconfig /release. Click on the ⬅ and it should reload with the only option to create a local account.

              5d4370dd-45ea-4dfc-b802-e53992d48b45-image.png

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs @black3dynamite
                last edited by

                @black3dynamite said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                @WrCombs

                Win10 1903 Home with Internet connection

                6b472a48-aa08-4d56-95fe-f17e9e39cef3-image.png

                Win10 1903 Home without Internet connection
                Press Shift + F10 to open command prompt and type ipconfig /release. Click on the ⬅ and it should reload with the only option to create a local account.

                5d4370dd-45ea-4dfc-b802-e53992d48b45-image.png

                turning on Airplane mode has the same effect I found.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  Never joining the wifi would do the same thing.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    Clicking this doesn't give you any way to make a local account?

                    0ff7464e-408f-4a81-916d-2de10394b5fb-image.png

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                    • WrCombsW
                      WrCombs @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                      Clicking this doesn't give you any way to make a local account?

                      0ff7464e-408f-4a81-916d-2de10394b5fb-image.png

                      nope.
                      Shows set up to create microsoft account.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @WrCombs
                        last edited by

                        @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                        Clicking this doesn't give you any way to make a local account?

                        0ff7464e-408f-4a81-916d-2de10394b5fb-image.png

                        nope.
                        Shows set up to create microsoft account.

                        Check the bottom left corner on that screen

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @WrCombs said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                          Clicking this doesn't give you any way to make a local account?

                          0ff7464e-408f-4a81-916d-2de10394b5fb-image.png

                          nope.
                          Shows set up to create microsoft account.

                          Check the bottom left corner on that screen

                          0c588831-40e0-4a3b-98d4-727e9cddf889-image.png

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            UPDATE: 2020-02-24
                            Windows 10 Pro, official 1909 ISO

                            It looks like the original post is still mostly accurate:

                            After selecting your region and keyboard layout:
                            OOBE 1.png

                            Create local account by clicking Offline account:
                            OOBE 2.png

                            Click Limited experience to continue creating a local account:
                            OOBE 3.png

                            Type your name then click Next:
                            OOBE 4.png

                            Type your password then click Next:
                            OOBE 5.png

                            Type your password again to confirm, then click Next:
                            OOBE 6.png

                            Select and answer three security questions, then click Next:
                            OOBE 7.png

                            Default Windows 10 Pro 1909 ISO Desktop and Start Menu layout:
                            Desktop.png

                            Default Windows 10 Pro 1909 ISO version (this is a VM):
                            Version.png

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Obsolesce leave the password blank to skip the security questions.

                              Then set the password after install.

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                              • hobbit666H
                                hobbit666
                                last edited by

                                Did see something about Microsoft stopping the ability to create local accounts on Win10 soon.

                                Hopefully that will only apply to Home edition and not Pro

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @hobbit666
                                  last edited by

                                  @hobbit666 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                  Did see something about Microsoft stopping the ability to create local accounts on Win10 soon.

                                  Hopefully that will only apply to Home edition and not Pro

                                  They sorta already did, and @Obsolesce post seems to indicate they rolled it back.
                                  If you were online with 1909 home edition, you could not make a local account - you had to reboot and take yourself offline (disable wifi/unplug ethernet), only then could you make a local account.

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                                  • hobbit666H
                                    hobbit666
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender
                                    I only mention it as i know April/May there is another BIG update coming and i think this maybe when the change is coming. I've always installed clean and disconnected to give the offline option, but from what i've seen that being removed for all clean install. You'll have to use an account to setup

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                      @Obsolesce leave the password blank to skip the security questions.

                                      Then set the password after install.

                                      Good to know!

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @hobbit666
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @hobbit666 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                        Did see something about Microsoft stopping the ability to create local accounts on Win10 soon.

                                        Hopefully that will only apply to Home edition and not Pro

                                        For personal use (Win10 Pro), I use my MS Outlook account for Windows and benefit from all the app and services integration and federation/SSO. It's great. It's nice having all that working from the beginning, such as with OneDrive, Edge Chromium, Mail / Calendar / ToDo app, etc... It all just works so seamless across all my devices and Android phone using it's MS dock and apps.

                                        For work use, it's a non-issue because of company IAM and MDM. There is never a case where a user has to go through those screens. After selecting a region and keyboard layout, they are brought to a company branded screen where they enter their work email and are then redirected to Okta login. From there, the PC is set up automatically according to company MDM and compliance policies, along with assigned apps and all that.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @hobbit666
                                          last edited by

                                          @hobbit666 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                          @Dashrender
                                          I only mention it as i know April/May there is another BIG update coming and i think this maybe when the change is coming. I've always installed clean and disconnected to give the offline option, but from what i've seen that being removed for all clean install. You'll have to use an account to setup

                                          This is very unlikely to be true. Requiring internet access upon setup is just something I really can't see MS making a mandate. Harass the hell out of you during that offline setup, sure, but actually prevent setup from continuing if there is no online access - yeah no.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @hobbit666 said in Installing Windows 10 without a Microcoft account:

                                            @Dashrender
                                            I only mention it as i know April/May there is another BIG update coming and i think this maybe when the change is coming. I've always installed clean and disconnected to give the offline option, but from what i've seen that being removed for all clean install. You'll have to use an account to setup

                                            This is very unlikely to be true. Requiring internet access upon setup is just something I really can't see MS making a mandate. Harass the hell out of you during that offline setup, sure, but actually prevent setup from continuing if there is no online access - yeah no.

                                            Yeah, the number of installs that they'd force to Linux would be higher than they would accept.

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