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    Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @krisleslie
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      @krisleslie said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

      We are a multi hat non-profit. We just so happen to be a post-secondary school too.

      Office 365 has plans for non-profits that are super cheap. like $5/u/m cheap with full blown Office local. without office might be $1/u/m.

      you could migrate the whole company to O365 if you wanted.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @krisleslie
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        @krisleslie said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

        Absolutely the "free" online version of Office works. On a side project, I'm trying to see if I can move over all users from our GoDaddy domain to Google (since we have it for the most part free) and save some coin.

        What are you doing on GoDaddy? you did more than just buy a domain from them?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

          Office 365 has plans for non-profits that are super cheap. like $5/u/m cheap with full blown Office local. without office might be $1/u/m.

          That's cheap, but still more expensive than Zoho at full price, which we've found to actually be a better product. So $1/u/m for the $5 O365 products!

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

            @Dashrender said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

            Office 365 has plans for non-profits that are super cheap. like $5/u/m cheap with full blown Office local. without office might be $1/u/m.

            That's cheap, but still more expensive than Zoho at full price, which we've found to actually be a better product. So $1/u/m for the $5 O365 products!

            I'm guessing that you and @Dashrender are talking about different feature sets. Office 365 Business Essentials, which is comparable to Zoho email and Zoho Docs is free for non-profits, and Office 365 A1 (the education equivalent) is also free. Office 365 Business Premium which is the < 300 user equivalent to the E3 license is $3/u/m which is less than the pricing for Zoho's Docs (assuming more than 5 users).

            • https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/academic/compare-office-365-education-plans?activetab=tab%3Aprimaryr1
            • https://www.techsoup.org/support/articles-and-how-tos/what-you-need-to-know-about-microsoft-office-365-nonprofit
            • https://www.zoho.com/docs/zoho-docs-pricing.html
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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Kelly
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              @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

              I'm guessing that you and @Dashrender are talking about different feature sets. Office 365 Business Essentials, which is comparable to Zoho email and Zoho Docs is free for non-profits

              Hmmm.. must be.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                Office 365 Business Premium which is the < 300 user equivalent to the E3 license is $3/u/m which is less than the pricing for Zoho's Docs (assuming more than 5 users).

                Zoho Docs is actually $1. But they don't advertise it. It's included with email believe it or not.

                In our $1 we get Zoho Mail, Cliq (IM), Connect (up to 25 users, that's their Yammer equiv), Docs, Writer, Sheets, Show, Notepad, and a few other little pieces. It's actually pretty amazing how much is included. And if we go over 25 users and want to keep Connect, it's just $1 more for $2 total.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  I’ve been busy but coming back to this, you want IPsec between all the routers. Then you set up L2 TP for when they’re not in the office

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                    @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                    Office 365 Business Premium which is the < 300 user equivalent to the E3 license is $3/u/m which is less than the pricing for Zoho's Docs (assuming more than 5 users).

                    Zoho Docs is actually $1. But they don't advertise it. It's included with email believe it or not.

                    In our $1 we get Zoho Mail, Cliq (IM), Connect (up to 25 users, that's their Yammer equiv), Docs, Writer, Sheets, Show, Notepad, and a few other little pieces. It's actually pretty amazing how much is included. And if we go over 25 users and want to keep Connect, it's just $1 more for $2 total.

                    So why is the information on their site so different?

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                      @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                      @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                      Office 365 Business Premium which is the < 300 user equivalent to the E3 license is $3/u/m which is less than the pricing for Zoho's Docs (assuming more than 5 users).

                      Zoho Docs is actually $1. But they don't advertise it. It's included with email believe it or not.

                      In our $1 we get Zoho Mail, Cliq (IM), Connect (up to 25 users, that's their Yammer equiv), Docs, Writer, Sheets, Show, Notepad, and a few other little pieces. It's actually pretty amazing how much is included. And if we go over 25 users and want to keep Connect, it's just $1 more for $2 total.

                      So why is the information on their site so different?

                      Not sure, we ran into the same thing. But we bought Zoho Mail and all of that comes with it. There are additional features of Docs, for example, that you can purchase above and beyond. But that's more OneDrive equivalent functionality, not Office Online functionality.

                      I think that the online info is confusing because they think that people realize that lots of this stuff is included and don't realize that it doesn't come across that you only pay for uplifted features.

                      But we are definitely only paying $1 and we get all of that and use it daily.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Lacking an English first team might also make it harder for them to realize how poorly information about their products is presented.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @Kelly
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                          @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                          @Kelly said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                          Office 365 Business Premium which is the < 300 user equivalent to the E3 license is $3/u/m which is less than the pricing for Zoho's Docs (assuming more than 5 users).

                          Zoho Docs is actually $1. But they don't advertise it. It's included with email believe it or not.

                          In our $1 we get Zoho Mail, Cliq (IM), Connect (up to 25 users, that's their Yammer equiv), Docs, Writer, Sheets, Show, Notepad, and a few other little pieces. It's actually pretty amazing how much is included. And if we go over 25 users and want to keep Connect, it's just $1 more for $2 total.

                          So why is the information on their site so different?

                          Yeah I use Zoho Mail too, can confirm that docs comes with it.

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                          • K
                            krisleslie
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                            Yes guys I know about all that stuff for non-profits been there done that.

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                            • K
                              krisleslie @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller I would say over the decade Zoho information about their products has greatly improved. I've been following them for as long as I can remember. That being said, it's still one of my companies I keep on a shortlist because it's hard to deny they are good at what they do.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                @krisleslie said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                @wirestyle22 Yes, we are in different cities. They are a new office, my office is where the AD is setup at. Potentially, if I can get this to work I would be moving another ROBO to this method for authentication.

                                Why not setup static VPNs between the sites on the edge devices?

                                This seems like the way to go.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                  @krisleslie said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                  I have two remote sites - no servers at them. All authentication is over the site to site VPN between my firewalls.
                                  So what are you using for authentication? So each site just "talks" to each other over vpn, I gotcha there, but authentication is handled by what?

                                  AD

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                                    @krisleslie said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                    Nothing spectacular just UBNT Firewalls.

                                    Pretty spectacular.

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore
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                                      Where is Zoho the company located?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                        @jmoore said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                        Where is Zoho the company located?

                                        Southern India

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                          @jmoore said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                          Where is Zoho the company located?

                                          You might know them as their subsidiary ManageEngine

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite @jmoore
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                                            @jmoore said in Anyone figured out how to ZeroTier with AD?:

                                            Where is Zoho the company located?

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