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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      So long as you weren't goofing off during that time obviously. You said you were watching your kid, so I assume there was some amount of "not working time" there. That's fine.

      But I'd kind of equate that to your lunch break, how much "not working time" was there?

      about 2 hours total through out the day. 1 hour for lunch then - an hour for taking care of the kid.

      So 7 hours makes sense then.

      It makes sense, yes, but it's not the point we were discussing.

      the point being that My boss said to put down what I worked, and I got 7 hours of Billable hours in yesterday?

      The point of your boss telling you to only report what you "worked on" rather than the total number of hours you were working.

      It's a fine line.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        So long as you weren't goofing off during that time obviously. You said you were watching your kid, so I assume there was some amount of "not working time" there. That's fine.

        But I'd kind of equate that to your lunch break, how much "not working time" was there?

        about 2 hours total through out the day. 1 hour for lunch then - an hour for taking care of the kid.

        So 7 hours makes sense then.

        It makes sense, yes, but it's not the point we were discussing.

        the point being that My boss said to put down what I worked, and I got 7 hours of Billable hours in yesterday?

        The point of your boss telling you to only report what you "worked on" rather than the total number of hours you were working.

        It's a fine line.

        Yeah I get it.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

          Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

          as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

          Why would you put in less? You are working.

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          • WrCombsW
            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

            Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

            as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

            Why would you put in less? You are working.

            yeah, I know.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

              Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

              as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

              you have to put less hours on your card because you work at home? Did I miss something?

              I can only put what "work I did" so basically Billable hours only.

              That's not legal. You were "at work", therefore must be paid. They don't stop paying you when your boss talks to you or they make you go to a meeting, right?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

                Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

                as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

                you have to put less hours on your card because you work at home? Did I miss something?

                I can only put what "work I did" so basically Billable hours only.

                That's not how employment law works. . . you're there and willing and able to work. It's your bosses fault for not having things for you to do.

                Stayed home with my son and worked from the house, had 6.5 hours of Billable hours on customer checks and half an hour of emails.
                7 hours.

                +1 hour of being avalable for work... 8 hours

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                • WrCombsW
                  WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

                  Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

                  as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

                  you have to put less hours on your card because you work at home? Did I miss something?

                  I can only put what "work I did" so basically Billable hours only.

                  That's not legal. You were "at work", therefore must be paid. They don't stop paying you when your boss talks to you or they make you go to a meeting, right?

                  No they don't stop paying me when I'm in the office.

                  I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    odd.. I work from home ; Get more done

                    Not odd, the entire industry has known for decades that you send people home to work, you bring them to the office for politics and to serve the egos of managers. Nearly everyone is way more productive at home. That's why nearly all good companies don't just allow it, they encourage it.

                    as that may be true: i was saying odd because of hours and how I have to put less hours on my time card because I worked from home.

                    you have to put less hours on your card because you work at home? Did I miss something?

                    I can only put what "work I did" so basically Billable hours only.

                    That's not how employment law works. . . you're there and willing and able to work. It's your bosses fault for not having things for you to do.

                    Stayed home with my son and worked from the house, had 6.5 hours of Billable hours on customer checks and half an hour of emails.
                    7 hours.

                    +1 hour of being avalable for work... 8 hours

                    I put my computer away and started making dinner at 4:30.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      So long as you weren't goofing off during that time obviously. You said you were watching your kid, so I assume there was some amount of "not working time" there. That's fine.

                      But I'd kind of equate that to your lunch break, how much "not working time" was there?

                      about 2 hours total through out the day. 1 hour for lunch then - an hour for taking care of the kid.

                      So 7 hours makes sense then.

                      It makes sense, yes, but it's not the point we were discussing.

                      the point being that My boss said to put down what I worked, and I got 7 hours of Billable hours in yesterday?

                      No, you didn't put down all of the time that you worked. You skipped the overhead time. This is one of those huge problems that IT people tend to have, we look for all kinds of excuses to not get paid for our work. Stop it, immediately. It's a crime for your boss to tell you to do that (he didn't, you imagined it it sounds like), and it's not actually legal for you to falsify it either. You were "at work" for eight hours. if they aren't keeping you busy, that's on them, not you. You were working during that time.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        No they don't stop paying me when I'm in the office.

                        Nor when you are at home on the computer ready to assist. Exactly the same.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.

                          1. When did you start?
                          2. Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.
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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.

                            1. When did you start?

                            Started at 8:00

                            1. Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.

                            That's fair.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              So long as you weren't goofing off during that time obviously. You said you were watching your kid, so I assume there was some amount of "not working time" there. That's fine.

                              But I'd kind of equate that to your lunch break, how much "not working time" was there?

                              about 2 hours total through out the day. 1 hour for lunch then - an hour for taking care of the kid.

                              Everyone has disruptions at work, but you don't stop getting paid. It's a fine line, at some point you've left work. But this is just like anything little at work interruption.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.

                                1. When did you start?

                                Started at 8:00

                                1. Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.

                                That's fair.

                                So definitely an eight hour day. There has to be some kind of soft limit, like stepping away for half of the day and not being available is one thing, but being slightly unavailable for a short period of time is just normal work day stuff.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
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                                  Telegram down for anyone else?

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    I put 7 down because 1) I was in front of my computer until 4:00 pm 2) i spent time taking care of my son as well which would equal 2 hours of the work day not worked.

                                    1. When did you start?

                                    Started at 8:00

                                    1. Not relevant. They can't stop paying you when someone talks to you at the water cooler or you get distracted by work conversations. Those things happen at the office or at home, they are part of your work day. When in the office you get loads and loads of time that you can't answer the phone, get to emails, etc. It's just normal day.

                                    That's fair.

                                    So definitely an eight hour day. There has to be some kind of soft limit, like stepping away for half of the day and not being available is one thing, but being slightly unavailable for a short period of time is just normal work day stuff.

                                    so walking away from work to help my son get lunch, get him drinks, etc through out the day would equate to the same time away from my desk at work or stuck in conversations with other people.

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                                    • WrCombsW
                                      WrCombs @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Telegram down for anyone else?

                                      Nope. Works just fine over here.

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                                        wirestyle22 @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Telegram down for anyone else?

                                        Working here

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @WrCombs
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                                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Telegram down for anyone else?

                                          Nope. Works just fine over here.

                                          Can't get the web interface, mobile app, or desktop application to work.

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                                          • WrCombsW
                                            WrCombs
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                                            odd.. Cause Mobile and Desktop are working for me. Haven't tried web yet.

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