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    Another Pertino discussion, just for non-pc mobile devices?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Pertino would work to some degree, but that only gets you the connectivity. Accessing files is still less than ideal to mobile devices. Pertino would be ideal for eliminating the need for the cloud files across the board, even on the Windows machines.

      I think that @thecreativeone91's idea of ownCloud is probably your best bet. It's not in the cloud or anything to do with cloud, actually, it's just a different type of file server that works really well with mobile devices.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        NTG runs ownCloud for internal use out of our Toronto datacenter on Linux. Free OS, free cloud storage platform. Works great.

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        • Bob BeattyB
          Bob Beatty @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller We have several business's with their own Domains. We have users (Lawyers) that need to write to the File Servers on those remote domains. Will OneCloud provide the solution, prompting or requiring the user for credentials when accessing a OneCloud system at a remote office? Or would Pertino be a better solution to access those remote shares on a different domain. It is not a Forest, so the user has to have credentials on that remote domain as well.

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          • Bob BeattyB
            Bob Beatty @A Former User
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            @thecreativeone91 $3,600 for OneCloud Standard subscription? wow.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Bob Beatty
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              @Bob-Beatty said:

              @thecreativeone91 $3,600 for OneCloud Standard subscription? wow.

              ownCloud not OneCloud.

              As for the functionality. You forward the port through the firewall to the server, put in the URL to the app, and you have full access to everything allowed to your user ID.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch
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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  That is my test server, not open to the internet, and just usable from in my house.

                  My public production server is SSL encrypted. I have a friend using it to share some Japanese TV that he recorded with me and he has access only to that one folder.

                  Another friend has access to a different folder where we share documents related to my D&D campaign.

                  Neither of those two can see all of my normal documents that I have synced there.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    ownCloud really is fantastic. I've got it setup for very similar reasons to @JaredBusch. When you share a file or folder via a link the users only get access to that specific data. Anything other then that isn't even shown to them. You can also hook it up to an LDAP server with minimal effort and use that as the authentication mechanism. I also have mine encrypted via SSL.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
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                      WorkFolders is the native one I was refering to. However while they've promised it for iOS/android there is no eta on it for android. Its for ipads only at this point. And you must have a windows server 2012 r2 file server. I'm not sure how this would impact you if using device cals either.

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                      • Bob BeattyB
                        Bob Beatty @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch Thanks Jered - I'm a dork - I meant owncloud. lol. I read the rest of the page - I get it - you just pay for a support subscription, but you can use the product for free.

                        When you say user id - is that AD integrated, or a user id you created in owncloud?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @Bob Beatty
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                          @Bob-Beatty said:

                          @JaredBusch Thanks Jered - I'm a dork - I meant owncloud. lol. I read the rest of the page - I get it - you just pay for a support subscription, but you can use the product for free.

                          When you say user id - is that AD integrated, or a user id you created in owncloud?

                          Either, you can use AD to create the users.

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                          • Bob BeattyB
                            Bob Beatty @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 The problem, right now with Work Folders is it doesn't support team/shared folders - it is basically for getting access to your folders, not a domain share that everyone or others may access, from my understanding of it - I may be wrong....

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver
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                              So you are looking for something more like Sharepoint? Where users can share files/data with their team?

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
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                                Does ownCloud share files that reside on a Windows server, or does it host the files itself?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  Does ownCloud share files that reside on a Windows server, or does it host the files itself?

                                  I have it installed on a Linux box. I believe that they have a Windows server component as well. Although I'm not sure the answer to your question. Although I can share the directory via a CIFS share on my Linux box.

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User
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                                    Owncloud is just php files.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @coliver
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                                      @coliver said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      Does ownCloud share files that reside on a Windows server, or does it host the files itself?

                                      I have it installed on a Linux box. I believe that they have a Windows server component as well. Although I'm not sure the answer to your question. Although I can share the directory via a CIFS share on my Linux box.

                                      So here is the way I read @Bob-Beatty post - He has several clients with Windows servers (assuming files on those servers). He wants to provide read-write access to those files from a mobile device. Can ownCloud be running in their environment and share those files directly from the Windows boxes, or would the files have to be moved to the linux box that hosts ownCloud?

                                      Now you mentioned that there might be a Windows version of ownCloud - if it's just a service that can be installed on the Windows file server, then I think that would solve his issue. But, if it's only available as a linux install, my question stands.

                                      I recall a month or so ago that AJ was looking for a way to connect to an internet connected linux box, and through that box be somehow allowed to connect and use the resources of servers only accessible inside the network - I think Scott gave him a solution but I don't recall the specifics.

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                                      • Bob BeattyB
                                        Bob Beatty @coliver
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                                        @coliver said:

                                        So you are looking for something more like Sharepoint? Where users can share files/data with their team?

                                        No. Wait... absolutely not. And don't say that out loud - last thing I need is another technology to manage - I barely get to sleep as it is - lol! It's pretty simple what we want, to give access to "some" users with laptops and smart phones to our data. The biggest criteria is that we use AD so that when they sync, we can control access, not matter what platform they are viewing or updating the file with. I don't want to have to send it to the cloud and manage another user id there, I just want users with mobile devices to be able to sync with their network shares and maintain access to their data. As I stated before, this is a piece of cake with Windows laptops, but setting up this access on other mobile devices (iphones, androids, i devices, etc...) is a challenge. Thus I thought about Pertino and utilizing that technology to give access and control access. This involves up to 3 domains with file servers at this point.

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                                        • Bob BeattyB
                                          Bob Beatty @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          Does ownCloud share files that reside on a Windows server, or does it host the files itself?

                                          I have it installed on a Linux box. I believe that they have a Windows server component as well. Although I'm not sure the answer to your question. Although I can share the directory via a CIFS share on my Linux box.

                                          So here is the way I read @Bob-Beatty post - He has several clients with Windows servers (assuming files on those servers). He wants to provide read-write access to those files from a mobile device. Can ownCloud be running in their environment and share those files directly from the Windows boxes, or would the files have to be moved to the linux box that hosts ownCloud?

                                          Now you mentioned that there might be a Windows version of ownCloud - if it's just a service that can be installed on the Windows file server, then I think that would solve his issue. But, if it's only available as a linux install, my question stands.

                                          I recall a month or so ago that AJ was looking for a way to connect to an internet connected linux box, and through that box be somehow allowed to connect and use the resources of servers only accessible inside the network - I think Scott gave him a solution but I don't recall the specifics.

                                          Right on - but from what I understand, and from what I have downloaded, this is a linux machine, and it ties into the Windows Server, somehow... not sure, still studying..

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @coliver said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Does ownCloud share files that reside on a Windows server, or does it host the files itself?

                                            I have it installed on a Linux box. I believe that they have a Windows server component as well. Although I'm not sure the answer to your question. Although I can share the directory via a CIFS share on my Linux box.

                                            So here is the way I read @Bob-Beatty post - He has several clients with Windows servers (assuming files on those servers). He wants to provide read-write access to those files from a mobile device. Can ownCloud be running in their environment and share those files directly from the Windows boxes, or would the files have to be moved to the linux box that hosts ownCloud?

                                            Now you mentioned that there might be a Windows version of ownCloud - if it's just a service that can be installed on the Windows file server, then I think that would solve his issue. But, if it's only available as a linux install, my question stands.

                                            I recall a month or so ago that AJ was looking for a way to connect to an internet connected linux box, and through that box be somehow allowed to connect and use the resources of servers only accessible inside the network - I think Scott gave him a solution but I don't recall the specifics.

                                            Nevermind, they used to have a Windows server... server. It doesn't appear to be following in the most recent release.

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