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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
      last edited by

      Given your requirements I'd go cheapest possible, especially if it's going to be a temp solution.

      To answer your first question though, yes, it can make a difference.

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      • creaytC
        creayt
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        @MattSpeller said:

        To answer your first question though, yes, it can make a difference.

        Interesting. So how do you weigh/compare performance differences across two motherboards that both support your minimum feature requirements? Is there some benchmarking comparison tool like CPUBoss but for mobos?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          Motherboards do influence speed and reliability, but are rarely a significant contributor if all the chipsets are the same.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @creayt
            last edited by MattSpeller

            @creayt said:

            Is there some benchmarking comparison tool like CPUBoss but for mobos?

            Nope! Sadly you need to put some trust in a review site who will get a bunch of them and plug the same CPU and RAM in & test. I've never seen it make a huge (+10%) difference. I have however seen some with REALLY shoddy feature support, buggy ass drivers and all sorts of other crap I wouldn't want to deal with long term.

            I stick with ASUS and Gigabyte in spite of their flaws. They are large enough (and have a track record) to fix issues long term.

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            • MattSpellerM
              MattSpeller
              last edited by

              http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/enthusiast-z97-motherboard-overclock,3893-27.html

              TL;DR - less than 3% speed difference, winner is decided by $$$ and features.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
                last edited by

                Chipsets and driver support are bigger deals to me. It's a toss up if I've had more issues with subpar capacitors or buggy drivers.

                I'm with Matt, I'd probably stick with Gigabyte and Asus too.

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                • s.hacklemanS
                  s.hackleman
                  last edited by s.hackleman

                  My last system build I started with the cheapest board I could find, It ran OK for about a year, then the board died with a blown cap. I decided to splurge and go to a top shelf gigabyte board to swap everything over too. Same stats, just a better board. The system was noticeably more stable and a little quicker. Personally, I will never go with a cheap board again.

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                  • StrongBadS
                    StrongBad
                    last edited by

                    I've always found more expensive boards from big names to be far more reliable. I suppose because they have reputations to protect they want people to be happy with their boards and remember them.

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                    • ?
                      A Former User
                      last edited by

                      Wasn't PCChip like one of the worst you could get?

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        You get what you pay for and mobo's are no exception heheh

                        Again, for short term (few months?) I wouldn't hesitate to cheap out on a mATX board from super sketchy brand X

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @A Former User
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                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                          Wasn't PCChip like one of the worst you could get?

                          IIRC Yes

                          There was a day when that was also Asrock, MSI and some other much more common brands. They've improved a lot over the years but it'll be 5-10 more before I'd trust them with my hard earned money.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
                            last edited by

                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            Wasn't PCChip like one of the worst you could get?

                            They were super cheap.

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                            • creaytC
                              creayt @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              Wasn't PCChip like one of the worst you could get?

                              IIRC Yes

                              There was a day when that was also Asrock, MSI and some other much more common brands. They've improved a lot over the years but it'll be 5-10 more before I'd trust them with my hard earned money.

                              Kind of looking at a ASRock right now. Are they considered pretty shoddy? Someone in one of the NewEgg reviews implied that you can use the ASRock bios to OC even non-K processors. If that's true that'd be awesome, I'd love to zip up this Xeon even if it made the proc die in less than a year. I also keep my apartment at about 67 degrees, and am thinking of running the case half open w/ a tower fan that I run blowing into it, so I'm feeling pretty confident on cooling. But yeah, if I could get my 1240 v2 up above 4 Ghz for 4-5 months I'd be a happy camper.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @creayt
                                last edited by MattSpeller

                                @creayt If it's got decent reviews then it's probably ok. I wouldn't buy one long term but I confessed that bias below heh.

                                As to the over clocking I'm not sure but my $0.02 is to avoid OC's like the PLAGUE on cheap mobo's.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User
                                  last edited by A Former User

                                  Overclocking a Xeon is generally a bad idea, not much you can do with them.

                                  Personally I would avoid OC all together it just shortens the life of the components, especially when caps and power regs are so close to their rated specs already.

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                                  • creaytC
                                    creayt @A Former User
                                    last edited by

                                    @thecreativeone91 said:

                                    Overclocking a Xeon is generally a bad idea, not much you can do with them.

                                    Personally I would avoid OC all together it just shortens the life of the components, especially when caps and power regs are so close to their rated specs already.

                                    But what about FUN? 😄

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                                    • MattSpellerM
                                      MattSpeller @creayt
                                      last edited by

                                      @creayt it's your chip bro have at it haha

                                      all I ask is you post your results!

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