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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @Alex Sage
      last edited by

      @anonymous said:

      As much as I would like it to, the company policy will not be changed, no matter how much I beg,
      Even if you save them $300+ a month going forward?

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Alex Sage
        last edited by

        @anonymous said:

        @thecreativeone91 said:

        Why does the fact that you are already paying for justify counting to pay for it?

        They had to run fiber to the building so we are locked in for 5 years.

        OK.. that makes sense... when that contract is up... definitely time to start looking..

        But the definitely shouldn't be a company policy.. that would possibly be one of the worst company policies I've ever heard of.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          OK.. that makes sense... when that contract is up... definitely time to start looking..

          But the definitely shouldn't be a company policy.. that would possibly be one of the worst company policies I've ever heard of.

          Agreed. Having a lock in and having a policy are very different things.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @A Former User
            last edited by

            @thecreativeone91 said:

            @anonymous said:

            Have to try to do this for 5K

            Ok? What part are you referring to that has to do with POTs lines. You are throwing out random facts that don't mean anything. Why do you needs POTS with a VoIP system? What part are you referring to that's so expensive?

            Agreed - We need the whole picture.

            Do you have a PRI or do you 4 POTS lines? or both? You say you only allow 4 people on the phone at one time... that seems to imply that you only actually have 4 POTS lines, and maybe don't really have a PRI?

            Also, the costs of the 4 POTS lines is probably around $100/month. Assuming your ISP sell SIP service, you could look at having them convert your POTS lines into SIP trunks inside your contract, which could put you in an even better position than you are now - i.e. you might be able to et 6 or 8 SIP trunks for the cost of the 4 POTS lines.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @coliver said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

              Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

              yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

              The call centers I used to work in were all SIP before left. You have TONS more options with SIP then you do with PRI.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Alex Sage
                last edited by

                @anonymous said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                I found 3CX to be unnecessarily complicated. A bit harder to use than more powerful and less constrained alternatives like Elastix and FreePBX. And needing a Windows license makes 3CX extra complicated and normally costly too.

                That might be true if you already have a linux admin on staff.....

                This isn't true at all - I'm not a Linux admin, I don't even play one on TV, and I had a fully functional FreePBX setup up and running. you install from an ISO just like you do windows, from there it's almost entirely GUI based setup.

                Granted you do need to learn a few command line things, but that's not entirely different than some things on Windows.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                  Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                  yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                  The call centers I used to work in were all SIP before left. You have TONS more options with SIP then you do with PRI.

                  Of course, as we're reading this thread, we're discovering that you're most likely not in the USA, you have very few if any options on where to get your ISP/Telco services - those things would have been helpful to know up front as well.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    Has this turned into two threads that are now impossible to follow?

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                    • ?
                      A Former User @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Has this turned into two threads that are now impossible to follow?

                      Pretty much

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        Ah, okay. That explains why I was confused. The OP has PRI because "management said so". @IT-ADMIN has it because he lives in a country with very specific limitations.

                        Not sure how this all got merged into one but I'm not sure if everyone is clear to whom they have been responding. I know that I'm not sure to whom I responded.

                        Maybe @IT-ADMIN can open a new thread or something? I'm not even sure what he's looking for.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          Maybe @IT-ADMIN can open a new thread or something? I'm not even sure what he's looking for.

                          No at all, if you see this thread from the beginning, you will see that i suggested the use of POTS lines because the OP has PRI and some POTS lines as he said, then @coliver asked me about how much ISP i have in my country then i reply to him,

                          i do apologize for any confusion

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            @IT-ADMIN said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            Maybe @IT-ADMIN can open a new thread or something? I'm not even sure what he's looking for.

                            No at all, if you see this thread from the beginning, you will see that i suggested the use of POTS lines because the OP has PRI and some POTS lines as he said, then @coliver asked me about how much ISP i have in my country then i reply to him,

                            i do apologize for any confusion

                            OH okay. I think maybe someone responded to you about your setup or something and then it looked like there had been a question that there wasn't. Thanks for clearing that up.

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              for this reason personally i will never rely on the internet connection for my phone system

                              Is the cost of being down equal to the yearly cost of a PRI? I don't know that would be a question for @anonymous.

                              yes, for us we have a call center, if the phone system is down only for short period of time that would be a real disaster

                              Got it... are you in an area with a single ISP?

                              yes you are right, we have only one ISP in the country

                              you can check the above conversation

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                OH okay. I think maybe someone responded to you about your setup or something and then it looked like there had been a question that there wasn't. Thanks for clearing that up.

                                you are welcome

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