Non-IT News Thread
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@MattSpeller said:
I'm an avid shooter and hunter, I still can't believe people tote them around like it's 1899
If people would open carry, and taught how to properly handle a gun, and how to shoot a moving target... These types of crimes would cause less destruction because people who are trained how and when to use their weapon would choose to do so... But that is in a perfect world.
Open carry will get you in hot water in a lot of states (which is sad to me).
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@dafyre said:
Open carry will get you in hot water in a lot of states (which is sad to me).
Instead of in the slammer? That would be better.
Open carry is a means of silently threatening everyone around you. No matter the legality of it, if you are carrying a lethal weapon around me for no reason, you are choosing to threaten me. It's an aggressive act no matter why people say or think they are doing it. It's a means of sending a message to others.
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Like that guy that terrified people in the Atlanta airport. Was he legally allowed to do that? Yes. Why? Who knows. Putting innocent people at risk just because he wanted to make a political statement about his right to terrify and endanger innocent travels is a horrible thing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
Open carry will get you in hot water in a lot of states (which is sad to me).
Instead of in the slammer? That would be better.
Open carry is a means of silently threatening everyone around you. No matter the legality of it, if you are carrying a lethal weapon around me for no reason, you are choosing to threaten me. It's an aggressive act no matter why people say or think they are doing it. It's a means of sending a message to others.
The same could be said of someone with huge muscles....
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@Dashrender said:
The same could be said of someone with huge muscles....
Except they never made the clear choice to bring those with them. It's who they are. Owning a gun and choosing to bring it with you is completely different. But if you compared it to a sword, then yes.
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And, of course, people are not just allowed to, but need to use muscles when they go out. If you had a gun that you were allowed to discharge for normal day to day tasks and could not be removed from your body, then that would be an analogous situation. But I know of no situation where you can discharge a gun in public as a normal part of your routine. Going to the grocery store, for example.
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The open carry extremists are no different than any other extremist group.
Any dumbass walking around with a loaded gun in hand and at the ready is a threat and should have their right to own a gun suspended, a fine, and required gun safety classes.
Like this dumbass with his finger over the trigger
On the other hand a person with a properly holstered gun is more than welcome to open carry
Obviously other people have different opinions.But the point is that an extremist group of any stripe is a bad thing.
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I'd almost prefer (not quite, I said almost) concealed to open carry because the ability to use the weapon for protection is roughly equal, it is only an open threat when not concealed.
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@JaredBusch I can't even
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@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch I can't even
I have my FOID card, but do not own a gun.
A year or so ago, my boss tagged along on a client site visit because it was near his property in southern Illinois that he hunts on. My boss is an avid hunter.
Sent my wife a picture of me shooting the new hunting rifle my boss had just purchased. She responded, "do you want to buy one?"
Note: My wife is Japanese. That country has some of the strictest gun control laws on the books.
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@JaredBusch Trust me, I'm an avid shooter & hunter - really enjoy the sport. I just die a little bit at the thought of actually needing to carry one around in public. To me that would be a prime indication that you need to move really badly, preferably really far away.
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@MattSpeller said:
@JaredBusch Trust me, I'm an avid shooter & hunter - really enjoy the sport. I just die a little bit at the thought of actually needing to carry one around in public. To me that would be a prime indication that you need to move really badly, preferably really far away.
One of the many reasons we are glad that we did.
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Just last night we were driving around one of the worst neighbourhoods in the whole country and remarking as to how safe it felt compared to not "all that dangerous" places, including ones in which we had lived ourselves, back in the US.
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@JaredBusch said:
Like this dumbass with his finger over the trigger
eh? He's actually doing the exact correct thing.... the finger is OUT of the trigger well when he's not firing.
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@Dashrender said:
eh? He's actually doing the exact correct thing.... the finger is OUT of the trigger well when he's not firing.
He is carrying in front, not over the back, which means he is "ready". he also has the finger right by the trigger. neither of these pieces alone are "passive" or "friendly" they are both aggressive.
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Sure, but he's also posing for a picture. That said, I'll agree these people are a bit crazy.. but sadly we need these crazies to help ensure the other side doesn't just take everything from the rest of us.
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@Dashrender said:
Sure, but he's also posing for a picture. That said, I'll agree these people are a bit crazy.. but sadly we need these crazies to help ensure the other side doesn't just take everything from the rest of us.
I disagree. What we actually need is neither of the extremists from either "side" of US politics. Or from any other group for that matter.
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@Dashrender said:
Sure, but he's also posing for a picture. That said, I'll agree these people are a bit crazy.. but sadly we need these crazies to help ensure the other side doesn't just take everything from the rest of us.
How are they ensuring that? If anything, aren't they encouraging the "other side" to have more "ammunition" to take everything from you?
And what are these people even thinking they are protecting you from? From feeling safe in the streets? What do you feel might be taken away?
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@Dashrender said:
@JaredBusch said:
Like this dumbass with his finger over the trigger
eh? He's actually doing the exact correct thing.... the finger is OUT of the trigger well when he's not firing.
He has a gun in public putting people at risk. Nothing here is correct.
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@Dashrender said:
but sadly we need these crazies to help ensure the other side doesn't just take everything from the rest of us.
Freedom will never result from living in fear.
