Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab
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@scottalanmiller Yes, I actually did. I needed context.
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Another aspect of home labs, that I think that people often overlook, is that when you do work "at the office" it is almost always constrained by someone. Rarely do we, even if we are the head of IT, get carte blanche to do the best things for the company. At home, we can follow all best practices and learn not just "how things often get done" but "how things should be done." It can be a very different way of learning.
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@dbeato said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller Yes, I actually did. I needed context.
It's a lot of context.
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@scottalanmiller Yes, it is correct. At work is so hard to implement all you would like to do.
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@dbeato said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller Yes, I actually did. I needed context.
I did too but at times I was about to give up because they were posting faster than I could keep up
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@dbeato said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller Yes, it is correct. At work is so hard to implement all you would like to do.
Not just what you would like to do, that's more about learning things to change the direction of your career. But how you should do, without artificial contrainsts that don't carry on from one job to another.
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@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Another aspect of home labs, that I think that people often overlook, is that when you do work "at the office" it is almost always constrained by someone. Rarely do we, even if we are the head of IT, get carte blanche to do the best things for the company. At home, we can follow all best practices and learn not just "how things often get done" but "how things should be done." It can be a very different way of learning.
Yes your right, there are many constraints here that keep me from doing the things I would do at home.
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@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@dbeato said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller Yes, I actually did. I needed context.
I did too but at times I was about to give up because they were posting faster than I could keep up
I had no hope.
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Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
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@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
You could, one would hope, have a lab at work as well.
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@reid-cooper said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
You could, one would hope, have a lab at work as well.
If your IT manager has the budget and the willingness to, then absolutely. Often times, that is not the case, unless you are a software development company where QA is absolutely necessary.
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@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@reid-cooper said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
You could, one would hope, have a lab at work as well.
If your IT manager has the budget and the willingness to, then absolutely. Often times, that is not the case, unless you are a software development company where QA is absolutely necessary.
One could argue that QA is always absolutely necessary.
QA isn't a lab, though, it's QA.
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@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
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@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
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@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
Oh! Btw, we bought this. See if you can get it work by next Thursday.
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@scotth said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
Oh! Btw, we bought this. See if you can get it work by next Thursday.
ThanksYeah thats pretty much how it was. No one did any testing. We have had tons of issues with network apps because win 10 does things a little differently than win 7. I mean, who would have figured that and we should have tested...
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@jmoore That's real life for you
Since you had the basics you are able to troubleshoot (Not the best scenario but nonetheless troubleshooting) Then you can give them guidance so they don't do it again -
@scotth said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
Oh! Btw, we bought this. See if you can get it work by next Thursday.
ThanksOr LAST Thursday!
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@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scotth said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
Oh! Btw, we bought this. See if you can get it work by next Thursday.
ThanksYeah thats pretty much how it was. No one did any testing. We have had tons of issues with network apps because win 10 does things a little differently than win 7. I mean, who would have figured that and we should have tested...
That's a major leap, too. Not like they went for the next version. They skipped two whole versions in between!
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@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scotth said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@scottalanmiller said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@jmoore said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
@nerdydad said in Would You Hire Someone in IT Who Does Not Have a Home Lab:
Its hard to test "what would happen if" if you don't have a lab. It doesn't have to be an exact replica, but if you have some "application" servers (plex/kodi, freepbx, nextcloud, or whatnot), and you make a simple change in networking or in infrastructure, then you should be able to see what happens and how that affects your environment. How to setup backups. What happens if I VLAN this off? What would happen if I put that in my DMZ? Etc.
yeah we should have tested all of our network applications before we moved to win 10 but we did not. The management decided to move us there and new computers for around 400 staff so we have had some hiccups. Applications and other things have reacted differently than expected. Then one of management left and I am now picking up some of that workload. Its been enlightening.
Ouch. That's just bad management, lol.
Oh! Btw, we bought this. See if you can get it work by next Thursday.
ThanksOr LAST Thursday!
Did I mention that sales staff will be inputting customer information next week?
Making it work is kind of a bane. It's also ego soothing.
I'd rather have some notice --- just because.
