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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Romo
      last edited by

      @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

      I always thought with 2 dns servers you set them to point at each other as primary and then to themselves as secondary. Most people always told my something like this:

      Tell those people to go look at their MS reference material again 😉

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      • RomoR
        Romo
        last edited by

        Just found this in technet:

        The inclusion of its own IP address in the list of DNS servers improves performance and increases availability of DNS servers. However, if the DNS server is also a domain controller and it points only to itself for name resolution, it can become an island and fail to replicate with other domain controllers. For this reason, use caution when configuring the loopback address on an adapter if the server is also a domain controller. The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

        https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378900(WS.10).aspx

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Romo
          last edited by

          @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

          Just found this in technet:

          The inclusion of its own IP address in the list of DNS servers improves performance and increases availability of DNS servers. However, if the DNS server is also a domain controller and it points only to itself for name resolution, it can become an island and fail to replicate with other domain controllers. For this reason, use caution when configuring the loopback address on an adapter if the server is also a domain controller. The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378900(WS.10).aspx

          But it says if "only to itself", of course we would never say to skip having the secondary.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Romo
            last edited by

            @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

            https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378900(WS.10).aspx

            Interesting, this goes against MS' DNS certification requirements in the past.

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            • RomoR
              Romo @scottalanmiller
              last edited by Romo

              @scottalanmiller said in DC DNS Settings:

              @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

              Just found this in technet:

              The inclusion of its own IP address in the list of DNS servers improves performance and increases availability of DNS servers. However, if the DNS server is also a domain controller and it points only to itself for name resolution, it can become an island and fail to replicate with other domain controllers. For this reason, use caution when configuring the loopback address on an adapter if the server is also a domain controller. The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378900(WS.10).aspx

              But it says if "only to itself", of course we would never say to skip having the secondary.

              Yes but it also says

              The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

              It's really confusing.

              Even dell has it like that http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN155801/en

              In a larger environment, at least two domain controllers at each physical site should be DNS servers. This provides redundancy in the event that one DC goes offline unexpectedly. Note that domain-joined machines must be configured to use multiple DNS servers in order to take advantage of this.
              If multiple DCs are configured as DNS servers, they should be configured to use each other for resolution first and themselves second. Each DC's list of DNS servers should include its own address, but not as the first server in the list. If a DC uses only itself for resolution, it may stop replicating with other DCs. This is obviously not an issue in a domain with only one DC.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Romo
                last edited by

                @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

                @scottalanmiller said in DC DNS Settings:

                @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

                Just found this in technet:

                The inclusion of its own IP address in the list of DNS servers improves performance and increases availability of DNS servers. However, if the DNS server is also a domain controller and it points only to itself for name resolution, it can become an island and fail to replicate with other domain controllers. For this reason, use caution when configuring the loopback address on an adapter if the server is also a domain controller. The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

                https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd378900(WS.10).aspx

                But it says if "only to itself", of course we would never say to skip having the secondary.

                Yes but it also says

                The loopback address should be configured only as a secondary or tertiary DNS server on a domain controller.

                It's really confusing.

                Even dell has it like that http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/SLN155801/en

                In a larger environment, at least two domain controllers at each physical site should be DNS servers. This provides redundancy in the event that one DC goes offline unexpectedly. Note that domain-joined machines must be configured to use multiple DNS servers in order to take advantage of this.
                If multiple DCs are configured as DNS servers, they should be configured to use each other for resolution first and themselves second. Each DC's list of DNS servers should include its own address, but not as the first server in the list. If a DC uses only itself for resolution, it may stop replicating with other DCs. This is obviously not an issue in a domain with only one DC.

                Yeah, apparently there is an islanding issue that can happen. Their wording is definitely not good.

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                • RomoR
                  Romo
                  last edited by

                  So I should not change my DNS servers settings then?

                  Primary: Second Dns
                  Secondary: 127.0.0.1

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Romo
                    last edited by

                    @Romo said in DC DNS Settings:

                    So I should not change my DNS servers settings then?

                    Primary: Second Dns
                    Secondary: 127.0.0.1

                    Apparently not.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller

                      This is why I asked.

                      See what I mean?

                      Can we at ML come up with a best practice?

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                      • thwrT
                        thwr
                        last edited by

                        Looks like I got the question wrong 😉

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                        • V
                          Veet
                          last edited by

                          Always pointed it to itself, as the primary ... Also, doesn't Microsoft itself recommend this as a Best Practice ?

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            So, does it really seem like we're all doing it wrong?

                            That DC1 should have DC2 listed as its primary DNS server? And DC1 secondary?

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                            • brianlittlejohnB
                              brianlittlejohn @BRRABill
                              last edited by brianlittlejohn

                              @BRRABill I have two DCS,
                              DC1 has DC2 as primary and itself as secondary. Then for DC2, DC1 is primary and itself secondary.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @brianlittlejohn
                                last edited by

                                @brianlittlejohn said in DC DNS Settings:

                                @BRRABill I have two DCS,
                                DC1 has DC2 as primary and itself as secondary. Then for DC2, DC1 is primary and itself secondary.

                                Seems like that is what is now recommended. Though all the first few posters did not have it set up that way, and that is apparently not the way MS used to recommend.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in DC DNS Settings:

                                  I do the same, itself as primary.

                                  But it seemed like there were a lot of people on the Internet with the opposite.

                                  Of course, they aren't the geniuses here at ML. 🙂

                                  I take it back, my servers were NOT set up like this.

                                  Not that anyone cares. Just wanted to set the record straight. 🙂

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    I have been doing the Primary points to other DNS and secondary to itself for over 5 years, and probably more like 15.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in DC DNS Settings:

                                      I have been doing the Primary points to other DNS and secondary to itself for over 5 years, and probably more like 15.

                                      Me, too. Never an issue.

                                      I wish we could have figured out why MS seems to be recommending it.

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                                      • AdamFA
                                        AdamF
                                        last edited by

                                        Adding to this:

                                        I've also always point the primary to 127.0.0.1 and secondary to the secondary controller. If no secondary controller, then a public DNS.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @AdamF
                                          last edited by

                                          @fuznutz04 said in DC DNS Settings:

                                          Adding to this:

                                          I've also always point the primary to 127.0.0.1 and secondary to the secondary controller. If no secondary controller, then a public DNS.

                                          Funny there are so many ways to do this that don't break it.

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                                          • Reid CooperR
                                            Reid Cooper @BRRABill
                                            last edited by

                                            @BRRABill said in DC DNS Settings:

                                            @fuznutz04 said in DC DNS Settings:

                                            Adding to this:

                                            I've also always point the primary to 127.0.0.1 and secondary to the secondary controller. If no secondary controller, then a public DNS.

                                            Funny there are so many ways to do this that don't break it.

                                            That don't break it.... right away.

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