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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 yeah, I don't like that.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @dafyre
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        @dafyre said in DC Demotion Question:

        As far as I can tell, you can use the Windows RSAT stuff to manage the SAMBA4 domain controllers, GPOs should work... Dang.. I need to spin one up now, lol.

        Let us know how that goes.

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        • wirestyle22W
          wirestyle22 @dafyre
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          @dafyre said in DC Demotion Question:

          As far as I can tell, you can use the Windows RSAT stuff to manage the SAMBA4 domain controllers, GPOs should work... Dang.. I need to spin one up now, lol.

          Interested in seeing this

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill @wirestyle22
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            @wirestyle22 said

            Interested in seeing this

            @scottalanmiller said he is going to do a writeup someday (soon?) on this process. (Replacing AD with Samba.)

            I'll probably give it a go. We're down to less than 20 employees, so if it burns, it burns.

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            • wirestyle22W
              wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

              @wirestyle22 said

              Interested in seeing this

              @scottalanmiller said he is going to do a writeup someday (soon?) on this process. (Replacing AD with Samba.)

              I'll probably give it a go. We're down to less than 20 employees, so if it burns, it burns.

              Is SAMBA4 better in a windows only environment or is it simply the best solution for hybrid environments?

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in DC Demotion Question:

                @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                @wirestyle22 said

                Interested in seeing this

                @scottalanmiller said he is going to do a writeup someday (soon?) on this process. (Replacing AD with Samba.)

                I'll probably give it a go. We're down to less than 20 employees, so if it burns, it burns.

                Is SAMBA4 better in a windows only environment or is it simply the best solution for hybrid environments?

                In a Windows only environment, I don't know if it really makes sense. Assuming you have the license in place already, why not use the native platform? Doesn't mean a SAMBA DC doesn't make all kinds of sense when you don't have the licensing in place already.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @travisdh1
                  last edited by wirestyle22

                  @travisdh1 said in DC Demotion Question:

                  @wirestyle22 said in DC Demotion Question:

                  @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                  @wirestyle22 said

                  Interested in seeing this

                  @scottalanmiller said he is going to do a writeup someday (soon?) on this process. (Replacing AD with Samba.)

                  I'll probably give it a go. We're down to less than 20 employees, so if it burns, it burns.

                  Is SAMBA4 better in a windows only environment or is it simply the best solution for hybrid environments?

                  In a Windows only environment, I don't know if it really makes sense. Assuming you have the license in place already, why not use the native platform? Doesn't mean a SAMBA DC doesn't make all kinds of sense when you don't have the licensing in place already.

                  Well, you need to maintain said licensing (ie refreshes etc). I'd rather move to SAMBA and use the licensing for other stuff or spend less if possible

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in DC Demotion Question:

                    @wirestyle22 said in DC Demotion Question:

                    @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                    @wirestyle22 said

                    Interested in seeing this

                    @scottalanmiller said he is going to do a writeup someday (soon?) on this process. (Replacing AD with Samba.)

                    I'll probably give it a go. We're down to less than 20 employees, so if it burns, it burns.

                    Is SAMBA4 better in a windows only environment or is it simply the best solution for hybrid environments?

                    In a Windows only environment, I don't know if it really makes sense. Assuming you have the license in place already, why not use the native platform? Doesn't mean a SAMBA DC doesn't make all kinds of sense when you don't have the licensing in place already.

                    They have licensing for 2003. This is a free update.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said

                      They have licensing for 2003. This is a free update.

                      Huh?

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                        @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                        @scottalanmiller said

                        They have licensing for 2003. This is a free update.

                        Huh?

                        He means I'm always going to have licensing in place

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
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                          Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

                          I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

                          Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                            @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                            Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

                            I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

                            Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

                            Did you update DHCP to no longer pass out the old DC as a DNS option?

                            Did you go through all the static IP devices and remove the old DC DNS info from them?

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in DC Demotion Question:

                              @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                              Well, I DCPROMOed the one physical DC last night. Nothing seems to have burned down.

                              I was having some DNS issues, but I think it was due to the fact that my machine was pointing to the demoted DC (which obviously had the DNS role installed) and it had been gutted by DCPROMO. I removed the role and everything seems OK thus far.

                              Though very few users are here. I'll feel better by like 10AM.

                              Did you update DHCP to no longer pass out the old DC as a DNS option?

                              Did you go through all the static IP devices and remove the old DC DNS info from them?

                              Yes and hopefully. 🙂

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                Everything is still running fine.

                                Next step will be to P2V this puppy and get it on XS.

                                Then I'll be even happier!

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
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                                  Did you know...

                                  Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                                  (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                                    Did you know...

                                    Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                                    (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

                                    It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @BRRABill
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                                      @BRRABill I'm testing domain migrations in my test environment tonight actually. I want to attempt to move from 2003 to 2012.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @coliver
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                                        @coliver said in DC Demotion Question:

                                        @BRRABill said in DC Demotion Question:

                                        Did you know...

                                        Apparently it's a PITA to transfer DHCP to an existing DC?

                                        (Countdown to someone saying "just install in on a Linux box" in 5...4...3...)

                                        It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

                                        Exactly - what issue are you having? What does it being a DC have to do with it?

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                                        • T
                                          tiagom
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                                          Is this from 2003 to 2012 R2? If so you can use the Windows Server Migration Tools.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @coliver
                                            last edited by BRRABill

                                            @coliver said

                                            It is? How so? You can easily backup the DHCP scopes and restore them to the new DC, decom the old one and turn up the new one. I've done it twice in the past without any issues.

                                            The KB article I read said you have to move the role BEFORE promoting it to a DC, otherwise it's a PITA. Though re-reading it now, it's a bit confusing...

                                            "Additionally, if the target Windows 2003 server is a member server, and if you plan to promote it to a domain controller, we suggested that you perform the DHCP database migration before promoting it to a domain controller. Although you can migrate the DHCP database to a Windows 2003 domain controller, the migration to a member server will be easier because of the existence of the local administrator account.

                                            1. Log on as a user who is an explicit member of the local Administrators group. A user account in a group that is a member of the local Administrators group will not work. If a local Administrators account does not exist for the domain controller, restart the computer in Directory Services Restore Mode, and use the administrator account to import the database as described later in this section."

                                            Ah, I think I read that wrong. I think logging in as a Domain Admin will be OK.

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