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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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      @johnhooks said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @Dashrender said:

      @johnhooks said:

      @scottalanmiller said:

      @johnhooks said:

      Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.

      That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.

      Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.

      You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /

      it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.

      That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config then /PermitRoot then edit that line, then :wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.

      Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.

      There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.

      Is it possible to do any kind of version control with Windows? I mean at a basic level you could use git with the /etc/ folder in Linux. How do you track changes in Windows?

      Not realistically, no. You "can" using things like snapshots but it is extremely bulky and kludgy and almost certainly impacts more than you would want.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @johnhooks said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @johnhooks said:

        @Dashrender said:

        @johnhooks said:

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @johnhooks said:

        Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.

        That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.

        Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.

        You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /

        it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.

        That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config then /PermitRoot then edit that line, then :wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.

        Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.

        There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.

        Is it possible to do any kind of version control with Windows? I mean at a basic level you could use git with the /etc/ folder in Linux. How do you track changes in Windows?

        Version control to what end?

        Updating software on Windows is a huge pain in the ass.

        There are things like Chocolatey where you can get packages to install a lot of the freeware/shareware applications out there.

        In Linux, all standard configs (and definitely all system ones) are text files under a single directory. If you want to back up all configuration you just do...

        tar -czf /tmp/mybackup.tgz /etc

        That's it, done. Everything in one zipped file. Super simple. Put those files into Subversion, GIT, Mercurial or even a wiki and you can track every change no matter how big or small. How do you do that on Windows?

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @Dashrender said:

          @johnhooks said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @johnhooks said:

          Last I used was 2003. It's probably because I haven't used it, but I can't imagine managing more than 3 of these.

          That's why they are common with small shops - you need lots of people for very little work and it creates busy work so that the department isn't idle. Once you get to any size, the human overhead costs is enormous.

          Maybe it's just me, but file based systems make so much more sense in my mind, I kind of just click with them. I think I've built a whole VDI container in less time than it's taking me to create a share and use folder redirection.

          You don't have the whole idea of drive letters in Linux either. I can see the appeal in that, though It took me a while to wrap my head around everything just being some folder mounted under /

          it's also not in your face that you are working on a different drive - which is both good and bad.

          That plus configs are in files. That makes much more sense to me. Like if I want to stop root login via ssh it's vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config then /PermitRoot then edit that line, then :wq. Takes maybe 10 seconds. I don't have to fumble through different windows to get what I want.

          Yeah - I completely agree! I really don't understand why the registry is supposed to be better than old text based config files. Assuming permissions are set correctly you can still easily keep people from messing with things they shouldn't mess with.

          There has to be a reason they decided to go that way in Windows 95, but I don't know it.

          Is it possible to do any kind of version control with Windows? I mean at a basic level you could use git with the /etc/ folder in Linux. How do you track changes in Windows?

          Version control to what end?

          Updating software on Windows is a huge pain in the ass.

          There are things like Chocolatey where you can get packages to install a lot of the freeware/shareware applications out there.

          In Linux, all standard configs (and definitely all system ones) are text files under a single directory. If you want to back up all configuration you just do...

          tar -czf /tmp/mybackup.tgz /etc

          That's it, done. Everything in one zipped file. Super simple. Put those files into Subversion, GIT, Mercurial or even a wiki and you can track every change no matter how big or small. How do you do that on Windows?

          Wail and Gnash teeth, or enable file versioning / shadow copies... Or both.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Next door neighbour just stopped by to drop off fresh sheep milk!

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @mlnews said:

              I've had a busy morning now that I discovered topic thumbnails!

              I set one of those on one of the how to's i wrote. useful

              You are having way too much fun editing every damn topic thumbnail this morning. 😏

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                Getting my fireplace and heater(s) fixed before the big snowstorm.

                Oh and getting a snowblower tire rebeaded hopefully.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller
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                  I just got passed in post count by @mlnews lol

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews @MattSpeller
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                    @MattSpeller said:

                    I just got passed in post count by @mlnews lol

                    Muhahahaha

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                    • MattSpellerM
                      MattSpeller @mlnews
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                      @mlnews said:

                      @MattSpeller said:

                      I just got passed in post count by @mlnews lol

                      Muhahahaha

                      Zip it spam bot lol - all up in here with your memes and links like you just don't care

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                      • mlnewsM
                        mlnews @MattSpeller
                        last edited by

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        @mlnews said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        I just got passed in post count by @mlnews lol

                        Muhahahaha

                        Zip it spam bot lol - all up in here with your memes and links like you just don't care

                        http://www.sourcelink.com/images/esig/honey-badger-dont-care.jpg?sfvrsn=0

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
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                          Installing Server 2016 preview 4. Curious how they are doing the containers.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @stacksofplates
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                            @johnhooks Let me know how that goes... Supposedly you can do Linux containers in 2016 as well.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @dafyre
                              last edited by

                              @dafyre said:

                              @johnhooks Let me know how that goes... Supposedly you can do Linux containers in 2016 as well.

                              Oh interesting.

                              I'm installing the gui because I have no clue how to use powershell ha.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @stacksofplates
                                last edited by

                                @johnhooks said:

                                @dafyre said:

                                @johnhooks Let me know how that goes... Supposedly you can do Linux containers in 2016 as well.

                                Oh interesting.

                                I'm installing the gui because I have no clue how to use powershell ha.

                                Had to read that 4 times because I couldn't figure out what you were doing with a guide

                                https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4pudkvHFOfk/maxresdefault.jpg

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                                • B
                                  BMarie
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                                  About sums it up, lol

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates
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                                    Just got done with a phone "interview", he's going to call at some point probably after the weekend (we just got a state of emergency because of weather) to set up a face to face interview.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Good luck!

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        Good luck!

                                        Thanks!

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                                        • gjacobseG
                                          gjacobse @stacksofplates
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                                          @johnhooks
                                          Best of luck.

                                          As for the weather - Do you have your bread and milk? I saw this out of Virginia this morning

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @gjacobse
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                                            @gjacobse said:

                                            @johnhooks
                                            Best of luck.

                                            As for the weather - Do you have your bread and milk? I saw this out of Virginia this morning

                                            0_1453411635052_12417926_940844009338962_4987176144985198358_n[1].jpg

                                            Thanks!

                                            hahaha, I think we should be good. I like driving in the snow, so if we get anything at all I might be having some fun.

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