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    • thwrT
      thwr @RojoLoco
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      @RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Wow, France is pwning the Germans...

      Not a problem at all. Will be much quieter here, no more fireworks, no more honking car parades, lesser drunks on the streets...

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Okay people, it is 3am here and I am heading to bed. See y'all tomorrow.

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        • thwrT
          thwr @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller good night, I'm en route to work right now (8:47am)

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
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            It's 8:30AM EST... Dull and early for me. Nothing bright in this boy until at least lunch time.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              It is a dreary but hot and muggy day in NY too.

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              • thwrT
                thwr
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                And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @thwr
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                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                  Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                  SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                  SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

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                  • thwrT
                    thwr @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                    Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                    SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                    SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                    Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @thwr
                      last edited by

                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                      Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                      SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                      SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                      Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                      Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                        Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                        SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                        SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                        Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                        Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                        But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                          Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                          SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                          SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                          Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                          Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                          But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                          It could be that XS7 isn't supported on that hardware platform.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                            Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                            SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                            SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                            Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                            Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                            But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                            Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                              Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                              SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                              SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                              Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                              Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                              But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                              Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                              I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                Nope

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                  Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                  SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                  SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                  Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                  Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                  But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                  Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                  I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                  Nope

                                  So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                    Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                    SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                    SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                    Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                    Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                    But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                    Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                    I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                    Nope

                                    So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                                    Well the lab came online last night, so these things are much more possible now.

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                                    • thwrT
                                      thwr @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                      Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                      SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                      SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                      Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                      Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                      But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                      Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                      I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                      Nope

                                      So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                                      Isn't Xen running on top of some Linux kernel? Something like rsyslog should do the job just fine in this case.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @thwr
                                        last edited by

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        And another micro SD card (in a RPi3) is going the way of all mortal beings... :cross:

                                        Began with some cryptic error from dpkg which turned out to be a filesystem warning (structure needs cleaning), did an fsck and now the card is dead. Still booting up to some point until it starts to complain about bad ELF headers 😉

                                        SD cards for operating systems are such a bad idea... I'm thinking about just using cheap SD cards in the future which will hold /boot, everything else will be on a USB thumb drive. Or I will use another platform in the future, Banana Pi for example is a far superior platform overall: SATA, NIC not attached via USB 2, WiFi onboard...

                                        SD cards are generally fine or even great of OSes. But you can't be writing to them, especially for logging. If you make sure that you are using an OS designed for this kind of use (a Live one) or you modify one for this use, they are very reliable.

                                        Sure, they are fine for readonly access. I think I will build something myself, unionfs based maybe (or some successor).

                                        Yup, which is how things being installed to them should be. Same as running off of a LiveCD or LiveDVD which are not even writeable.

                                        But he was trying to install XenServer... Isn't that one of the Hypervisors that everybody has been telling us should be run from an SD card? ... I wonder if it could be an issue with XS7?

                                        Yes BUT requires that you modify it so as not to write locally. You can't skip that part.

                                        I was under the impression that XS takes that into account when installing to SD, etc.

                                        Nope

                                        So the question is @scottalanmiller when are we going to see a guide on how to easily redirect all logging to a remote location?

                                        Isn't Xen running on top of some Linux kernel? Something like rsyslog should do the job just fine in this case.

                                        The LOGGING of XenServer is running on CentOS, Xen itself runs right on the bare metal.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          In theory someone tried the syslog redirection and it failed.

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                                            BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said

                                            In theory someone tried the syslog redirection and it failed.

                                            Someone, someone.

                                            I'd love to get some more info on this. It's been bugging me for some time now.

                                            Can we start a thread for it?

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