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    • thwrT
      thwr @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Seriously, I have a /16 network but am blaming Elastix?
      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1712402-anyone-use-elastix-pbx-software-before

      Funny. Whenever I see someone using /16, it's always 10.0.0.0. Like you can't use multiple /25 for example in that range...

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Seriously, I have a /16 network but am blaming Elastix?
        https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1712402-anyone-use-elastix-pbx-software-before

        lol, I'll trade ya buddy, at least I know how to fix that!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @thwr
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          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Seriously, I have a /16 network but am blaming Elastix?
          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1712402-anyone-use-elastix-pbx-software-before

          Funny. Whenever I see someone using /16, it's always 10.0.0.0. Like you can't use multiple /25 for example in that range...

          Yeah, someone once heard that 10.0.0.0 was a Class A in 1992 and has carried on that misinformation for two and a half decade.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Seriously, I have a /16 network but am blaming Elastix?
            https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1712402-anyone-use-elastix-pbx-software-before

            Funny. Whenever I see someone using /16, it's always 10.0.0.0. Like you can't use multiple /25 for example in that range...

            Yeah, someone once heard that 10.0.0.0 was a Class A in 1992 and has carried on that misinformation for two and a half decade.

            Yepp, but Class A is /8, not /16

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre @thwr
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              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Seriously, I have a /16 network but am blaming Elastix?
              https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1712402-anyone-use-elastix-pbx-software-before

              Funny. Whenever I see someone using /16, it's always 10.0.0.0. Like you can't use multiple /25 for example in that range...

              Yeah, someone once heard that 10.0.0.0 was a Class A in 1992 and has carried on that misinformation for two and a half decade.

              Yepp, but Class A is /8, not /16

              According to http://www.subnet-calculator.com/subnet.php?net_class=A, the Class is determined by the first octet.

              The first network I inherited was a 90.0.0.0/8 for private IP addresses! WTF?

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              • thwrT
                thwr @dafyre
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                @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

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                • tonyshowoffT
                  tonyshowoff @thwr
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                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                  Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @tonyshowoff
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                    @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                    Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                    That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

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                    • thwrT
                      thwr @tonyshowoff
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                      @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                      Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                      SAM mentioned classes, I was just explaining that a private class A network (10.0.0.0-10.255.255.255) is nothing else but 10.0.0.0/8

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                      • tonyshowoffT
                        tonyshowoff @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                        Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                        That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                        Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain address use for subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

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                          Just caught a Lapras about an hour ago on lunch! BOOM!

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @tonyshowoff
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                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                            Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                            That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                            Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                            Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory:
                            https://mangolassi.it/topic/9787/why-i-love-hiring-those-that-teach-themselves/

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @thwr
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                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                              Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                              That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                              Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                              Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                              It's not necessary... If it's not necessary, it's obsolete... and we all know what happens to obsolete stuff... (pause for effect) ... IT folks that don't know any better keep dragging it back from the brink of /dev/null.

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @dafyre
                                last edited by thwr

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                It's not necessary... If it's not necessary, it's obsolete... and we all know what happens to obsolete stuff... (pause for effect) ... IT folks that don't know any better keep dragging it back from the brink of /dev/null.

                                Just edited my post above and added a link to SAMs topic about life-long learning in IT:
                                https://mangolassi.it/topic/9787/why-i-love-hiring-those-that-teach-themselves

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                                • tonyshowoffT
                                  tonyshowoff @thwr
                                  last edited by tonyshowoff

                                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                  Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                  That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                  Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                  Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                  Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @tonyshowoff
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                                    @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                    Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                    That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                    Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                    Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                    Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

                                    IP Address = 4 decimal numbers = 4 octets... I got started calling them octets when I was taking my Cisco certs... and it just never went away, lol.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @tonyshowoff
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                                      @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                      Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                      That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                      Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                      Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                      Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

                                      I used to talk octets.... to a PDP.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @tonyshowoff
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                                        @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                        Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                        That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                        Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                        Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                        Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

                                        They are called octets I thought because it was eight bits. Why octet rather than byte, no idea, but they do the same thing with UNIX perms.

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                                        • thwrT
                                          thwr @dafyre
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                                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                          Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                          That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                          Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                          Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                          Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

                                          IP Address = 4 decimal numbers = 4 octets... I got started calling them octets when I was taking my Cisco certs... and it just never went away, lol.

                                          That's totally ok. An IPv4 address is made of 4 bytes, so 4x8 bit. 8 bits are an octet, so that's perfectly fine.

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                                          • thwrT
                                            thwr @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @dafyre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network#Introduction_of_address_classes

                                            Classes? CIDR is the only way to fly... or route I guess.

                                            That's why I posted... CIDR has been the norm for the past few years as far as I can tell... Classes never really mattered anyway... Did they?

                                            Sort of, but most often they were used as a means to explain subnetting rather than being used as a literal standard in their own right.

                                            Yepp. There's a reason that no one uses classes anymore. At least in theory.

                                            Hell even now class usually just refers to large groups of what you'd notate with CIDR anyway. Like "It's a class A" "oh OK so I'll put 0.0.0.0/8". A definitely obsolete thing I hear very rarely is the different bytes being referred to as "octets", even though they're obviously written in decimal or hexidecimal. It just tells me they don't know what the hell octet even means and think it means byte or class or something.

                                            They are called octets I thought because it was eight bits. Why octet rather than byte, no idea, but they do the same thing with UNIX perms.

                                            Yeah, never got used to it myself. It's like word vs short, dword vs int32, byte vs octet...

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