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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller ha ha dad

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

        It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

        IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

        I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

          I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

          does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

          I'm still not okay with it.

          ADD or ADHD much 😛

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

            I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

            does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

            I'm still not okay with it.

            ADD or ADHD much 😛

            Maybe you are thinking of OCD?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @StrongBad
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              @StrongBad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

              I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

              does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

              I'm still not okay with it.

              ADD or ADHD much 😛

              Maybe you are thinking of OCD?

              Maybe.. Maybe not. 😉

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned @Dashrender
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                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                Slippery slope, there.

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

                  I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

                  does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

                  No more so than cabling in your datacenter needs to be neat and tidy to work.

                  It's... just... really wrong. Goes against everything I've been taught.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @art_of_shred
                    last edited by

                    @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                    It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                    IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                    I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                    Slippery slope, there.

                    No more than anything else.. but no less either.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

                      I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

                      does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

                      No more so than cabling in your datacenter needs to be neat and tidy to work.

                      It's... just... really wrong. Goes against everything I've been taught.

                      I saw that equal statement.. Cable length (lives) matter 😛

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                        @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                        It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                        IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                        I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                        Slippery slope, there.

                        Not really. It's less slippery than requiring things and making us pay for them when a job can't exist until we do. Nothing is worse than a secret tax.

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

                          I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

                          does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

                          No more so than cabling in your datacenter needs to be neat and tidy to work.

                          It's... just... really wrong. Goes against everything I've been taught.

                          I saw that equal statement.. Cable length (lives) matter 😛

                          lol it's not a hard and fast thing so I took it out. But really! It's killing me here. It's like this being your datacenter and you have people tour it every day and stare at it. Horrific.

                          http://www.itrw.net/blog/server_spaghetti_1.jpg

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                            It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                            IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                            I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                            Slippery slope, there.

                            No more than anything else.. but no less either.

                            Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.

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                            • art_of_shredA
                              art_of_shred Banned @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @MattSpeller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              https://hackadaycom.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pi-pc2.png?w=800

                              I was gunna layout a board, but then I got high.... and did it anyway

                              does being in straight lines, etc somehow ensure a better design layout? What if the circuit paths are shorter this way?

                              No more so than cabling in your datacenter needs to be neat and tidy to work.

                              It's... just... really wrong. Goes against everything I've been taught.

                              I saw that equal statement.. Cable length (lives) matter 😛

                              lol it's not a hard and fast thing so I took it out. But really! It's killing me here. It's like this being your datacenter and you have people tour it every day and stare at it. Horrific.

                              http://www.itrw.net/blog/server_spaghetti_1.jpg

                              Explosion at the Silly String factory?

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @art_of_shred
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                                @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                Slippery slope, there.

                                Which is why we call that a logical fallacy. It prevents us from having a reasonable discussion when people immediately assume the worst.

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                                • art_of_shredA
                                  art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                  It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                  IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                  I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                  Slippery slope, there.

                                  Which is why we call that a logical fallacy. It prevents us from having a reasonable discussion when people immediately assume the worst.

                                  When government is at the helm, only an idiot would not assume the worst. It's the only thing they know how to do consistently.

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                    It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                    IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                    I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                    Slippery slope, there.

                                    No more than anything else.. but no less either.

                                    Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.

                                    I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
                                      ...and do some Pokemon Hunting on the way to vote.

                                      And that is what is wrong with this country, folks.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
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                                        @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                        It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                        IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                        I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                        Slippery slope, there.

                                        No more than anything else.. but no less either.

                                        Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.

                                        I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.

                                        But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.

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                                          art_of_shred Banned @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                          It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                          IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                          I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                          Slippery slope, there.

                                          No more than anything else.. but no less either.

                                          Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.

                                          I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.

                                          But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.

                                          The concept, not this isolated case.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            ve witnessed would have been ignored by that article. They work too hard to say that Trump is wrong (which is true, I'm sure) an

                                            It's easy to defraud the system - no requirement to provide ID, because somehow requiring ID is a tax on the poor. though I'm not sure how you even have a job if you don't have an ID? oh yeah, illegal/under the table jobs.

                                            IDs should be free and universal. Only legit way for them to work.

                                            I have a hard time disagreeing with this. Pretty much anything the government requires you to have, should be paid for by the government - but that's not a blank check for the government to just start requiring anything/everything and just tax the crap out of us to pay for it. I am not saying that!

                                            Slippery slope, there.

                                            No more than anything else.. but no less either.

                                            Actually less than the current situation. It's slipperier now.

                                            I think the point was missed. The "slippery slope" is that once you create the precedent that it's okay to tax to offer "free stuff to everyone", it can quickly become an open door to tax more and more, as long as the money goes to give something to everyone. That's scary. There is an awful lot of stuff that someone can "justify" as important for everyone, and then we all have to pay for it.

                                            But that's not a slippery slope. It's a necessary thing that everyone already needs and already has to pay for (tax) that would just be shifted from a bizarre "you figure it out" system to a centralized one.

                                            @art_of_shred said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            The concept, not this isolated case.

                                            Exactly... Although, in Scott's defense, at the moment I can't think of a think (though I'm sure they are there) that has gone over the top since passing what looks like a reasonable law in the first place.

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