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    • EddieJenningsE
      EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      I'm continuously amazed how on SW you can go a month without a specific question then two the same one just minutes apart. It's like nearly all discussions come in waves, but from disconnected people. I don't understand the effect.

      Example is today there are two topics that popped up within ten minutes of each other... both are looking at if connecting iSCSI directly to a VM to bypass the datastore is a wise idea. I've not seen that come up in weeks or months, but two in a few minutes. Chances are, another will happen later today.

      Link?

      From what I've learned, it seems like the way to utilize iSCSI storage for a VM is to connect the iSCSI storage to the hypervisor and put a VHD on it for the VM to use, rather than trying to connecting iSCSI directly to a VM.

      I am using iSCSI storage for the VHD that's the "data" drive for a VM that's a file server (among other things). For a couple of days, my iSCSI storage will be used for all of my VHDs while the new local RAID 10 initializes. Then my iSCSI storage will be for backups.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        From what I've learned, it seems like the way to utilize iSCSI storage for a VM is to connect the iSCSI storage to the hypervisor and put a VHD on it for the VM to use, rather than trying to connecting iSCSI directly to a VM.

        Exactly, otherwise you break snaps and take visibility out of the hands of the hypervisor.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          Updated the deployment image at one client.

          Now setting up a Fedora 26 VM to try this Nginx-Extras on.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @EddieJennings
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            @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            For a couple of days, my iSCSI storage will be used for all of my VHDs while the new local RAID 10 initializes.

            Where days = minutes, I hope. What kind of initialization is that?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Updated the deployment image at one client.

              Now setting up a Fedora 26 VM to try this Nginx-Extras on.

              Alpha still, but barely.
              0_1496339278570_upload-dcf8d90e-3d8d-43c9-9663-14be4d3f9ecb

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              • EddieJenningsE
                EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                For a couple of days, my iSCSI storage will be used for all of my VHDs while the new local RAID 10 initializes.

                Where days = minutes, I hope. What kind of initialization is that?

                However long it'll take the PERC710 controller on my Dell T620 to get the new array ready. I hope it's minutes.

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Updated the deployment image at one client.

                  Now setting up a Fedora 26 VM to try this Nginx-Extras on.

                  Alpha still, but barely.
                  0_1496339278570_upload-dcf8d90e-3d8d-43c9-9663-14be4d3f9ecb

                  I didn't realize that 26 was so close to production release.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @coliver
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                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Updated the deployment image at one client.

                    Now setting up a Fedora 26 VM to try this Nginx-Extras on.

                    Alpha still, but barely.
                    0_1496339278570_upload-dcf8d90e-3d8d-43c9-9663-14be4d3f9ecb

                    I didn't realize that 26 was so close to production release.

                    It's only a six month cycle. The next one is never very far away.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      From what I've learned, it seems like the way to utilize iSCSI storage for a VM is to connect the iSCSI storage to the hypervisor and put a VHD on it for the VM to use, rather than trying to connecting iSCSI directly to a VM.

                      Exactly, otherwise you break snaps and take visibility out of the hands of the hypervisor.

                      Having done things both ways, it's definitely better to let the Hypervisor handle the underlying disks.

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                      • EddieJenningsE
                        EddieJennings @dafyre
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                        @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        From what I've learned, it seems like the way to utilize iSCSI storage for a VM is to connect the iSCSI storage to the hypervisor and put a VHD on it for the VM to use, rather than trying to connecting iSCSI directly to a VM.

                        Exactly, otherwise you break snaps and take visibility out of the hands of the hypervisor.

                        Having done things both ways, it's definitely better to let the Hypervisor handle the underlying disks.

                        I once did the middle road before I became educated: iSCSI connection to Hypervisor (Hyper-V), then pass-through the disk to VM.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Why do people get so confused about MS licensing? I mean it's no GPL, but come on. Am I the only one that feels much of it is obvious and what isn't is pretty decently spelled out in the EULA? Someone asked a question, I immediately could tell it was going to be non-viable because it is so obviously going to be a EULA violation and so double checked the EULA and had a clear and concise answer in like 30 seconds.

                          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2000182-hyper-v-on-windows-10-for-very-small-firm

                          Most of the thread I get, people looking for use case clarification and that's totally cool. but then the expected rant by someone that expects something ridiculously unreasonable, claims things are too complicated to be viable and then claims to have answers but clearly doesn't understand the TECH at all... I suppose that's why he doesn't understand the EULA.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.

                              Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Tagging @Chris who can commiserate on that thread 🙂

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                                • wirestyle22W
                                  wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.

                                  Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.

                                  Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.

                                    Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.

                                    Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.

                                    Honestly, any adult should know this. It's just a general adulting skill - don't ask for advice from random people. I mean like "do you like the colour of my shirt", whatever. but you are asking very technical legal advice from completely random people - that's something everyone should know not to do, it's just a life skill. There is nothing IT, Microsoft or vendor related in that.

                                    Apply it to other things in life, what random sales people would you outside of IT ask for things like legal advice?

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller A lot of the confusion comes from microsoft reps giving you misinformation, which has happened to me at least 4 times now.

                                      Well, to some degree, that's your fault. That's an inappropriate resource for getting licensing advice. Unless they are specifically a licensing advisor that exists for that purpose, it's not their job to tell you and you shouldn't be asking them. They wouldn't be good resources for any technical advice, either, they are reps, not your engineers.

                                      Agreed, but I wouldn't have the expectation of spiceworks peeps knowing this. I myself didn't a few years ago.

                                      Honestly, any adult should know this. It's just a general adulting skill - don't ask for advice from random people. I mean like "do you like the colour of my shirt", whatever. but you are asking very technical legal advice from completely random people - that's something everyone should know not to do, it's just a life skill. There is nothing IT, Microsoft or vendor related in that.

                                      Apply it to other things in life, what random sales people would you outside of IT ask for things like legal advice?

                                      They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario

                                        So you'd ask the janitor at a law firm for legal advice because he works for a law firm? You've worked for companies before, do you have insider knowledge or speak on behalf of them? What if random people today asked you for guidance on city ordnances or something? Would you be a sensible person to ask? But they would say "but he works for the city", right?

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          They are at the very least associated with Microsoft, it's just not in the capacity you would need it to be in this scenario

                                          So you'd ask the janitor at a law firm for legal advice because he works for a law firm? You've worked for companies before, do you have insider knowledge or speak on behalf of them? What if random people today asked you for guidance on city ordnances or something? Would you be a sensible person to ask? But they would say "but he works for the city", right?

                                          No because he's also not in the capacity I would need him to be to get the information I'm looking for

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Places I've worked include state and federal government, Wall St. investment banking, sovereign funds, research hospitals, and a lot more. But choosing me as the person to guide you on kidney transplant options, national banking currency manipulation, spot trading, how to bride a senator or how to get a recommendation to West Point are all things that would be crazy.

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