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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Trying to get to some writing that I've had on my desk all day.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @NerdyDad
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        All I shared was:

        https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
        https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voip

        Where did you share them?

        With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.

        Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?

        He thinks that the LAN is saturated.

        How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?

        We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!

        He can VLAN all he wants. But that does not change the fact that QoS on and entire VLAN is not correctly prioritizing the voice traffic.

        It is prioritizing all of the traffic on the VLAN. Which includes the broadcast traffic and dns and dhcp and sip as well as the rtp that actually carries the voice traffic.

        It is a misconfiguration based on stated intent.

        You boss is wrong. Feel free to send this to him.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          All I shared was:

          https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
          https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voip

          Where did you share them?

          With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.

          Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?

          He thinks that the LAN is saturated.

          How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?

          We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!

          He can VLAN all he wants. But that does not change the fact that QoS on and entire VLAN is not correctly prioritizing the voisce traffic.

          It is prioritizing all of the traffic on the VLAN. Which includes the broadcast traffic and dns and dhcp and sip as well as the rtp that actually carries the voice traffic.

          It is a misconfiguration based on stated intent.

          You boss is wrong. Feel free to send this to him.

          Can't. Upvote. Enough.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Just caught up on SW for the day, one of the fastest catchups I've ever had after a day offline. It's as if no one was there. And quite a few posts that I stumbled on had zero replies after being up most of the day.

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            • momurdaM
              momurda @NerdyDad
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              @NerdyDad How many phone calls are active when this happens?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @momurda
                last edited by

                @momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @NerdyDad How many phone calls are active when this happens?

                And is the audio an issue bidirectionally or just in one direction? Is there QoS on the WAN?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I'm assuming that he knows that if this is happening it would be on extension to extension calls, not only on ones going to the outside.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    I'm assuming that he knows that if this is happening it would be on extension to extension calls, not only on ones going to the outside.

                    Made this point to someone on SW today.

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller That's because I was not there 😛

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                      • momurdaM
                        momurda @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller Right. With a gb network, you should be able to have at least a hundred calls
                        http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice/voice-quality/7934-bwidth-consume.html#anc1

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad
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                          @momurda @scottalanmiller In the 2.5 years that I have been supporting this network, I have not had one complaint about call quality on extensions. If we do have complaints, it's on co ferenxe calls and is usually on a 3rd party bridge with sucky equipment.

                          Can't check QoS on the firewall because AT&T owns that right now.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                            @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller That's because I was not there 😛

                            Ha, that will do it. I was too busy to be there. It was eerily silent.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                              @NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @momurda @scottalanmiller In the 2.5 years that I have been supporting this network, I have not had one complaint about call quality on extensions. If we do have complaints, it's on co ferenxe calls and is usually on a 3rd party bridge with sucky equipment.

                              Can't check QoS on the firewall because AT&T owns that right now.

                              Sounds like an excuse that he didn't realize wasn't plausible.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller I didn't miss much, only 4 posts since 4 hours ago. I was playing softball and then fireworks so it took a while.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                  @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller I didn't miss much, only 4 posts since 4 hours ago. I was playing softball and then fireworks so it took a while.

                                  I know, it's crazy. ML hit a record busy day and it's like SW didn't even exist. There are two threads going on now, both newbies talking to me. Not a single other person responding to them, so weird.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    Except that you just did, ha ha.

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                                    • dbeatoD
                                      dbeato @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller Yeah, I felt like he needed a push to know that is not the right direction. I am going to do my best to post more here. I am just probably water cooling here more than contributing so I feel like guilty lol...

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @dbeato
                                        last edited by

                                        @dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller Yeah, I felt like he needed a push to know that is not the right direction. I am going to do my best to post more here. I am just probably water cooling here more than contributing so I feel like guilty lol...

                                        Ha ha. It's been one heck of a day. I can't believe how busy it was. The posting went non-stop all night!

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Just finished an article that is set for publication in two weeks.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Our Scale HC3 is on 7.3.19 now, so playing with some of the new features there.

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