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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      Trying hard on a new record for tissue usage. Currently measured in tissues / minute.

      Yikes. I still have a cough from a horrible head and chest cold that started on December 19th.

      ouch. We're facing a big wave of influenza here. Austria's stock of vaccine is already depleted.

      As for me, well, I guess it's just a simple cold.

      This year's flu strains are bad. the vaccines are only ~25% effective. But we all have had our shots here. Because a 25% bonus on the dice is better than a 0% bonus.

      How effective are they in "normal" years? I thought it was only like 50% at best anyway, but I truly have no idea.

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      • thwrT
        thwr @wrx7m
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        @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Trying hard on a new record for tissue usage. Currently measured in tissues / minute.

        Yikes. I still have a cough from a horrible head and chest cold that started on December 19th.

        ouch. We're facing a big wave of influenza here. Austria's stock of vaccine is already depleted.

        As for me, well, I guess it's just a simple cold.

        This year's flu strains are bad. the vaccines are only ~25% effective. But we all have had our shots here. Because a 25% bonus on the dice is better than a 0% bonus.

        That number is inflated from what I heard. I was hearing as low as 10% for this year.
        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/this-years-flu-vaccine-may-only-be-10-effective-experts-warn/

        From what I have heard, our vaccine is more or less useless. It's some subtype this year that's not covered in the standard vaccine.

        It's always a bet based on estimates. And like @JaredBusch said: You can have your glass half full or half empty, your choice 😉

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco
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          Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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            @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

            I've never had the flu either. I've been lucky that I've always managed to avoid flu shots.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @RojoLoco
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              @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

              That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @RojoLoco
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                @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

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                • NerdyDadN
                  NerdyDad
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                  Had the flu last week. Didn't get the flu shot. If I had gotten the flu shot, would it have protected me from the flu? Probably not. Probably won't ever get the flu shot either. Unless I'm elderly or immune system is compromised.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                    That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                    Ok, you can have my flu shot, I don't need or want it. I wouldn't take another one with a gun to my balls. You have fun with your bullshit pseudo-vaccine, I'll stay over here without it and remain healthy.

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                    • wrx7mW
                      wrx7m @Obsolesce
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                      @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                      I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                      If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

                      I used to never get it. Several years ago, I decided to. I ended up feeling like I had the flu but it was mild. I also noticed a strange painful sensitivity on the surface of my skin all the way down the arm on which I had received the shot. I would say it is similar to what people describe shingles as but not the intensity. This lasted for about a month. Because it lasted so long I didn't think they were related.

                      The next year, I got the flu shot and experienced the same pain/sensitivity. It didn't start til several days afterward so I didn't put it together. The 3rd year, I finally realized that it was being caused by the flu shot.

                      That was the end of me getting the flu shot.

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                      • popesterP
                        popester @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                        That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                        Flu shot every year for 20 years, no flu. Go figure. My Brother, gets flu shot, sicker than a dog for weeks. The only thing I can come up with is possibly a violent allergic reaction.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @RojoLoco
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                          @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                          That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                          Ok, you can have my flu shot, I don't need or want it. I wouldn't take another one with a gun to my balls. You have fun with your bullshit pseudo-vaccine, I'll stay over here without it and remain healthy.

                          Science is not pseudo anything.

                          Just because you had an adverse reaction once to a very specific culture (each year is different) does not negate the science of immunization.

                          Are you a flat-earther too?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @wrx7m
                            last edited by

                            @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                            I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                            If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

                            I used to never get it. Several years ago, I decided to. I ended up feeling like I had the flu but it was mild. I also noticed a strange painful sensitivity on the surface of my skin all the way down the arm on which I had received the shot. I would say it is similar to what people describe shingles as but not the intensity. This lasted for about a month. Because it lasted so long I didn't think they were related.

                            The next year, I got the flu shot and experienced the same pain/sensitivity. It didn't start til several days afterward so I didn't put it together. The 3rd year, I finally realized that it was being caused by the flu shot.

                            That was the end of me getting the flu shot.

                            Highly likely you have an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Instead of ignoring it, you should speak with a doctor about it because at some point in your life, you will likely be hospitalized for something and an adverse reaction to some medication at the wrong time could be fatal.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                              That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                              Ok, you can have my flu shot, I don't need or want it. I wouldn't take another one with a gun to my balls. You have fun with your bullshit pseudo-vaccine, I'll stay over here without it and remain healthy.

                              Science is not pseudo anything.

                              Just because you had an adverse reaction once to a very specific culture (each year is different) does not negate the science of immunization.

                              Are you a flat-earther too?

                              But the science also says that most of us are already effectively immune to the flu of the variant that they immunize for. So according to science, there isn't much risk unless you are very old and have "first flu sin exposure" or whatever it is called prior to 1918.

                              If the variant changes as us 1918 and later kids are at risk again, then everything chances. But right now, what the vaccine is for is what we are already ready for.

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                              • RojoLocoR
                                RojoLoco @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                                That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                                Ok, you can have my flu shot, I don't need or want it. I wouldn't take another one with a gun to my balls. You have fun with your bullshit pseudo-vaccine, I'll stay over here without it and remain healthy.

                                Science is not pseudo anything.

                                Just because you had an adverse reaction once to a very specific culture (each year is different) does not negate the science of immunization.

                                Are you a flat-earther too?

                                No, I'm a healthy human with zero need for a flu shot. Since I've been sick a sum total of less than a week in the past 30 years, I'll stick to my "fuck the flu shot" guns, thanks.

                                Also, what in the bloody fuck does flat earth retardedness have to do with flu shots??? You might be stretching a little too far there, bud. Go get your flu shots and have fun with that.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                                  I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                                  If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

                                  I used to never get it. Several years ago, I decided to. I ended up feeling like I had the flu but it was mild. I also noticed a strange painful sensitivity on the surface of my skin all the way down the arm on which I had received the shot. I would say it is similar to what people describe shingles as but not the intensity. This lasted for about a month. Because it lasted so long I didn't think they were related.

                                  The next year, I got the flu shot and experienced the same pain/sensitivity. It didn't start til several days afterward so I didn't put it together. The 3rd year, I finally realized that it was being caused by the flu shot.

                                  That was the end of me getting the flu shot.

                                  Highly likely you have an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Instead of ignoring it, you should speak with a doctor about it because at some point in your life, you will likely be hospitalized for something and an adverse reaction to some medication at the wrong time could be fatal.

                                  I have mentioned it every time they offer but none have been concerned.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Are you a flat-earther too?

                                    https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26730872_363490690785215_6541763942187746260_n.jpg?oh=2b8ec5efb1d3cd590302f506c0d4a1bd&oe=5AEFD152

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason).

                                      That is totally untrue and not how the human immune system works.

                                      Ok, you can have my flu shot, I don't need or want it. I wouldn't take another one with a gun to my balls. You have fun with your bullshit pseudo-vaccine, I'll stay over here without it and remain healthy.

                                      Science is not pseudo anything.

                                      Just because you had an adverse reaction once to a very specific culture (each year is different) does not negate the science of immunization.

                                      Are you a flat-earther too?

                                      But the science also says that most of us are already effectively immune to the flu of the variant that they immunize for. So according to science, there isn't much risk unless you are very old and have "first flu sin exposure" or whatever it is called prior to 1918.

                                      If the variant changes as us 1918 and later kids are at risk again, then everything chances. But right now, what the vaccine is for is what we are already ready for.

                                      The entire thing is nothing but an increased chance of resistance in case of exposure. My family happens to be in an environment with a good chance of exposure, so an increased chance of resistance is certainly a benefit.

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                                      • popesterP
                                        popester @wrx7m
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                                        @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                                        I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                                        If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

                                        I used to never get it. Several years ago, I decided to. I ended up feeling like I had the flu but it was mild. I also noticed a strange painful sensitivity on the surface of my skin all the way down the arm on which I had received the shot. I would say it is similar to what people describe shingles as but not the intensity. This lasted for about a month. Because it lasted so long I didn't think they were related.

                                        The next year, I got the flu shot and experienced the same pain/sensitivity. It didn't start til several days afterward so I didn't put it together. The 3rd year, I finally realized that it was being caused by the flu shot.

                                        That was the end of me getting the flu shot.

                                        Highly likely you have an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Instead of ignoring it, you should speak with a doctor about it because at some point in your life, you will likely be hospitalized for something and an adverse reaction to some medication at the wrong time could be fatal.

                                        I have mentioned it every time they offer but none have been concerned.

                                        Sometimes you have to run it farther up the flag pole. The person administering the shot may not pick up on your concern. The thing to have done would have been to speak to the Dr. about it and if no response find a new Dr. Waving off allergic reactions is dangerous, they can come back with a vengeance. A nurse practitioner almost killed my wife last week. She had hives and the nurse practitioner kept sending her home with higher doses of steroids. She went to the dermatologist and the dermatologist freaked out and said the steroids were simply amplifying the reaction. This is why it is medical "Practice". They are not gods.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @popester
                                          last edited by

                                          @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @wrx7m said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Flu vaccine is only for the elderly, enfeebled, and others with compromised immune systems... If you're reasonably healthy, there is no reason to get a flu shot (unless you secretly want to get sick as fuck for no reason). I had one when I was 18, and you'd literally have to kill me to get me to take another one. Never been sicker in all my life (and that counts the times I had the flu before that BS shot).

                                          I've never had a flu shot, and I probably never will.

                                          If I ever got the flu, I didn't notice or didn't get sick enough to care. Same with others in my family.

                                          I used to never get it. Several years ago, I decided to. I ended up feeling like I had the flu but it was mild. I also noticed a strange painful sensitivity on the surface of my skin all the way down the arm on which I had received the shot. I would say it is similar to what people describe shingles as but not the intensity. This lasted for about a month. Because it lasted so long I didn't think they were related.

                                          The next year, I got the flu shot and experienced the same pain/sensitivity. It didn't start til several days afterward so I didn't put it together. The 3rd year, I finally realized that it was being caused by the flu shot.

                                          That was the end of me getting the flu shot.

                                          Highly likely you have an allergic reaction to something in the vaccine. Instead of ignoring it, you should speak with a doctor about it because at some point in your life, you will likely be hospitalized for something and an adverse reaction to some medication at the wrong time could be fatal.

                                          I have mentioned it every time they offer but none have been concerned.

                                          Sometimes you have to run it farther up the flag pole. The person administering the shot may not pick up on your concern. The thing to have done would have been to speak to the Dr. about it and if no response find a new Dr. Waving off allergic reactions is dangerous, they can come back with a vengeance. A nurse practitioner almost killed my wife last week. She had hives and the nurse practitioner kept sending her home with higher doses of steroids. She went to the dermatologist and the dermatologist freaked out and said the steroids were simply amplifying the reaction. This is why it is medical "Practice". They are not gods.

                                          Yeah, it has been my actual Dr and nurses offering. I will mention it next time I see them. Thanks for the info.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce
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                                            The only studies I've found suggesting the flu shot is safe and beneficial are sponsored by those who profit off of it... just something I've noticed, but I haven't looked too deeply into flu shots. I just know that we're (myself and family) all perfectly fine without it.

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