What Are You Doing Right Now
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm reading up on MS CALs. I just realized that you even need a CAL for things like DHCP or DNS.
Yeah, which is why MS licensing (bad player) fees get to be extreme a lot of the time.
It's crazy. I had thought this whole time that things like accessing file services required CALs, but not just random guest devices that get a DHCP address. That totally changes everything. One scenario I read that claimed to need a CAL was a networked break buzzer for the shop floor. If using the per user model, you would need a user CAL for each employee on payroll. Dumb
Most places find that per user is the much cheaper way to go. Only in shops where you have huge staff but few shared computers does device license make sense. So in the case of phone connecting - it would be covered under the user's user license.
we have about 50 computer users but 200 shop employees. I dont currently have any CALs that cover the shop employees.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
can you elaborate?
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm reading up on MS CALs. I just realized that you even need a CAL for things like DHCP or DNS.
Yeah, which is why MS licensing (bad player) fees get to be extreme a lot of the time.
It's crazy. I had thought this whole time that things like accessing file services required CALs, but not just random guest devices that get a DHCP address. That totally changes everything. One scenario I read that claimed to need a CAL was a networked break buzzer for the shop floor. If using the per user model, you would need a user CAL for each employee on payroll. Dumb
Most places find that per user is the much cheaper way to go. Only in shops where you have huge staff but few shared computers does device license make sense. So in the case of phone connecting - it would be covered under the user's user license.
we have about 50 computer users but 200 shop employees. I dont currently have any CALs that cover the shop employees.
Device Cal's would be what you want.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
WTF does this have to do with anything here? ALso thread split..
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
can you elaborate?
No more than 10 concurrent connections (ie smb or cifs) is allowed.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
WTF does this have to do with anything here? ALso thread split..
He mentioned using Windows 10 to run SQL on, read the quoted bit!
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
WTF does this have to do with anything here? ALso thread split..
He mentioned using Windows 10 to run SQL on, read the quoted bit!
You quoted the entire post. SO there was no context.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
can you elaborate?
No more than 10 concurrent connections (ie smb or cifs) is allowed.
I'd have to double check, but I'm pretty sure it's just connections, i.e. not limited solely to SMB/CIFS. Though there is (or was) a technical stop for SMB/CIFS, there likely isn't for other apps running from a Windows box.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
WTF does this have to do with anything here? ALso thread split..
He mentioned using Windows 10 to run SQL on, read the quoted bit!
You quoted the entire post. SO there was no context.
/sigh - just because you didn't read the part and see the Win10 part - well that's not my fault.
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Jared - I'm thinking you need to take the panties off - you're being a bit to feisty today
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Where do I start with replacing the whole AD/DHCP/DNS stack for managing windows machines? I'm locked in to windows desktop OS for the foreseeable future, but I dont need to be dependent on them for everything else. I can see the next generation of services not using windows server in anyway, with SQL being able to be run from linux or windows 10, and something like Nextcloud running the file server.
Windows 10 suffers the max 10 connections issue - just reminding you of that.
WTF does this have to do with anything here? ALso thread split..
He mentioned using Windows 10 to run SQL on, read the quoted bit!
You quoted the entire post. SO there was no context.
/sigh - just because you didn't read the part and see the Win10 part - well that's not my fault.
I had no idea WTF you meant by that. because there wa sno context. you quoted the entire post that covered the whole scope.
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I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
@DustinB3403, I know that. My original post was assuming only user CALs. I actually have both, but the point was that it is stupid that they are needed at all. It was not meant to be a debate between user or device CALs.
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.All Windows desktop operating systems have this limit, always have. Well as far back as I can recall. It is not software enforced though. It is a license limit.
I thought it was something like 15, but yeah. It has always existed.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
All Windows desktop operating systems have this limit, always have. Well as far back as I can recall. It is not software enforced though. It is a license limit.
I thought it was something like 15, but yeah. It has always existed.
To summarize this, its a licensing requirement, hence the different versions of Windows (desktop) and (server). Plus CALS on top of that.
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
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Massive garage cleaning going on.
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downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here? -
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?Normally you see stuff pretty quickly.
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
downloaded and installed Wiztree on clients computer, Clicked scan and it's just sitting here..
@JaredBusch @DustinB3403 What should i expect to see here?It'll progress and show you every file and folder on the system. Assuming you scanned the "C:" partition. Or wherever your looking to free up space.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
