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I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
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@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
The simpler answer is "anything". Windows 10 cannot be used as a server. There are extremely specific, and essentially useless, exceptions. You simply can't use Windows desktops as if they were cheap servers.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
The important bit to him is "server software." Everything he is describing is server software. Commercial hosting is on top of that, and not important here.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I wonder what else I am hosting from windows 10 breaks this clause then. Unifi? Various license servers for CAD? FM audit? Predator DNC?
You simply can't use Windows desktops as if they were cheap servers.
I agree that this is probably the point.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Donahue said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am so confused.
@Dashrender can you produce a link that says that SQL is limited to 10 connections when hosted from windows 10? It sounds like you are claiming this, and I don't believe it.
It's in the EULA and is both a technical limit as well as a licensing limit. Also, SQL hosted from Windows 10 has other license issues if used like a server beyond the hard limits.
can you guys explain more? I am unfamiliar with what you guys are trying to tell me. @scottalanmiller which EULA, windows 10 or SQL?
In the End User Licence Agreement, exist a clause that says you won't use a Microsoft Desktop platform to provide hosted services to more than X people.
(more or less)
And that you must purchase Microsoft Server and CALs if you need to host services above the stated limit.
Found it. From here, section 2.d.(iii)
2.c. is more important. That's the part that forbids SQL Server completely, even with just one connection. The 10 connection limit is only for allowed services. Since SQL is forbidden, that is the overriding factor.
Yeah this is the money statement here
c. Restrictions. The manufacturer or installer and Microsoft reserve all rights (such as rights under intellectual property laws) not expressly granted in this agreement. For example, this license does not give you any right to, and you may not:
v) use the software as server software, for commercial hosting, make the software available for simultaneous use by multiple users over a network, install the software on a server and allow users to access it remotely, or install the software on a device for use only by remote users;
that says for commercial hosting - I assume that Scott and others are going to say - when you host to yourself, that is commercial hosting. OK I think I agree with that bit then...
The important bit to him is "server software." Everything he is describing is server software. Commercial hosting is on top of that, and not important here.
yep - these are the exceptions you're given.
Device connections. You may allow up to 20 other devices to access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of using the following software features: file services, print services, Internet information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Internet information services,
That one is why ACT! was installed on Windows 7 and I didn't care.
Of course now that they finally had to update, I made them install on Server 2012R2 (they had an unused license).
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Internet information services,
That one is why ACT! was installed on Windows 7 and I didn't care.
Of course now that they finally had to update, I made them install on Server 2012R2 (they had an unused license).
What catches a lot of people is apps that run a separate component, plus an IIS or file serving component.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Internet information services,
That one is why ACT! was installed on Windows 7 and I didn't care.
Of course now that they finally had to update, I made them install on Server 2012R2 (they had an unused license).
What catches a lot of people is apps that run a separate component, plus an IIS or file serving component.
Like Quickbooks.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Internet information services,
That one is why ACT! was installed on Windows 7 and I didn't care.
Of course now that they finally had to update, I made them install on Server 2012R2 (they had an unused license).
What catches a lot of people is apps that run a separate component, plus an IIS or file serving component.
Like Quickbooks.
Correct
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saturday morning. happy december. where did all the months go?
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@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
saturday morning. happy december. where did all
the monthsmy hair go?Is that fixed for you?
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@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
saturday morning. happy december. where did all the months go?
Where are you located?
Happy Saturday!
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garbage truck came while we were unloading the truck, so we had to move it down the street and back!
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Stopped off in Macon for a burger and a beer on the way to FL. Next stop Clearwater Beach.
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Enjoying some reading on this forum.
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@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Enjoying some reading on this forum.
it's pretty entertaining no?
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Enjoying some reading on this forum.
it's pretty entertaining no?
Between this and Telegram, hell yeah.
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
saturday morning. happy december. where did all
the monthsmy hair go?Is that fixed for you?
haha. thanks mate.
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@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Enjoying some reading on this forum.
it's pretty entertaining no?
Between this and Telegram, hell yeah.
I need to catch up on the telegram convo I usually just mark as read and continue on my day.
