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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22
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      Time to play with graylog

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      • notverypunnyN
        notverypunny @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Trying to figure out why 25% of our office 2019 installs fail.

        install in a master image once and then it either works for everyone or is borked for everyone

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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          @notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          Trying to figure out why 25% of our office 2019 installs fail.

          install in a master image once and then it either works for everyone or is borked for everyone

          That's good if you are going to re-image for every software release. Which is feasible, but extremely heavy.

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          • EddieJenningsE
            EddieJennings
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            Reinstalling Cisco AMP on XenApp server golden images.

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            • notverypunnyN
              notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Trying to figure out why 25% of our office 2019 installs fail.

              install in a master image once and then it either works for everyone or is borked for everyone

              That's good if you are going to re-image for every software release. Which is feasible, but extremely heavy.

              You mean heavy looking at the image size or looking at the IT overhead?

              Image size, my W10 image with a bunch of apps is smaller than my W7 image with nothing installed, even after running all of the crap removal tools and dism image cleanup stuff that I could find.

              From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                @notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                You mean heavy looking at the image size or looking at the IT overhead?

                As in overhead... deploying a new full image for app installations.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Automating certbot. . . because

                  https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @DustinB3403
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                    @DustinB3403 I haven't needed to manually renew any of my web servers in years now. It's great.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                      @notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.

                      This part isn't bad. Making the baseline is pretty easy and totally sensible. It's needing to roll that baseline out to every machine to do the install. If it is one app, once a year... trivial. If apps go at different times to different people, and there are many of them, it's a problem.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @wirestyle22
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                        @wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 I haven't needed to manually renew any of my web servers in years now. It's great.

                        Yeah. . . I'm doing it because I had too. . . because of reasons. . .

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Ugh, deleting spam again.

                          We could help 😛

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Automating certbot. . . because

                            https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

                            Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.

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                            • notverypunnyN
                              notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @notverypunny said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              From an overhead / maintenance point of view I've moved to using MDT + VirtualBox for our W10 image. This way it rebuilds the image from scratch every time. Been doing it this way for about a year now and haven't run into any problems. Takes about an hour from pxe booting the VM against the deployment share until I'm capturing the new image against our FOG master server. From there it automatically gets sync'd to the FOG storage nodes at our remote sites. This way there's no old update or version cruft that follows from month to month and when we want to test a new windows version or software I can copy the whole task sequence and play with it before changing the baseline / benchmark.

                              This part isn't bad. Making the baseline is pretty easy and totally sensible. It's needing to roll that baseline out to every machine to do the install. If it is one app, once a year... trivial. If apps go at different times to different people, and there are many of them, it's a problem.

                              Yeah, we try to avoid app installs once the HW has been deployed so that possibility didn't come to mind.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                                @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Automating certbot. . . because

                                https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

                                Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.

                                Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Automating certbot. . . because

                                  https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

                                  Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.

                                  Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?

                                  I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    Automating certbot. . . because

                                    https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

                                    Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.

                                    Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?

                                    I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.

                                    I push for all sorts of things above my pay grade, especially stupid things like not having automated LE!

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                                    • dafyreD
                                      dafyre @DustinB3403
                                      last edited by

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Automating certbot. . . because

                                      https://blog.chef.io/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/automate-all-the-things-300x224.png

                                      Found out my Employer's Certificate Supplier is supporting Certbot now... for an additional fee, of course.

                                      Eh. . . so you're not using them any more right?

                                      I'm pushing for it, but it's above my pay grade.

                                      I push for all sorts of things above my pay grade, especially stupid things like not having automated LE!

                                      Oh, I do too. Somethings I make progress on, and others, it's like talking to a brick wall. This one may actually be a State policy, but I mention it as often as I can to people who matter.

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore @notverypunny
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                                        @notverypunny I do have that in both of my faculty and student images. Some faculty workstations are just too much of a pain to reimage. They have document solution software, the government financial aid stuff which took a lot of patches to get working reliably because their database runs on Access. It is for these systems I want it working reliably.

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                                        • notverypunnyN
                                          notverypunny @jmoore
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                                          @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @notverypunny I do have that in both of my faculty and student images. Some faculty workstations are just too much of a pain to reimage. They have document solution software, the government financial aid stuff which took a lot of patches to get working reliably because their database runs on Access. It is for these systems I want it working reliably.

                                          Yeah, I get it. One of my former gigs was in the construction industry. I avoided re-imaging / reformatting most machines there unless necessary, too many specialized applications for estimating and design.

                                          For your Office 2019 issue, I expect you've already looked at conflicts due to existing crud on the machine? Like the O365 garbage that probably comes shipped, or is it auto-installed now with the build updates?

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @notverypunny
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                                            @notverypunny It is the same Windows 10 image I use for everyone. I image every new piece for hardware that comes my way. We have Windows 10 Education version. Yes when I image I get rid of most things I can. So we are talking about identical systems where 25% just hang and never install. I thought it was network related but I don't think so now.

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