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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
      she wants to see what I can do.

      Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

        So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol

        This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.

        Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.

        That makes sense, but you have to remember I work with really Uneducated people -
        Linux is just myths to these people.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

          So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol

          This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.

          Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.

          What? Again, Linux based OSes would never even come up - So I'm not sure why you brought them up. The environment that Wr works is is purely Windows - so the boss is only looking at Windows, therefore a 'real' server would only be a Windows Server OS... Talking about a Linux OS serves no benefit at all here.

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          • WrCombsW
            WrCombs @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
            she wants to see what I can do.

            Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

            That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..
            Hence why i was frustrated yesterday with the company.. like every other day.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Talking about a Linux OS serves no benefit at all here.

              There are many benefits to using a Linux OS as the base for the Hypervisor. Fedora and KVM for example, or if @WrCombs really wanted XCP-ng on the metal with a Windows Guest and then an XO installation to back it all up.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @DustinB3403
                last edited by

                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
                she wants to see what I can do.

                Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

                Don't forget Dustin - these are restaurants... IF he sets up Hyper-V, he will likely have to do it from within a base Windows Server install so he has a console to work from.

                It's unlikely that there will be an "admin" workstation for him to use to manage this server in the future.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @WrCombs
                  last edited by

                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..

                  But your real boss told you to do what was needed. Which would be purchasing 2019 with CALs, even if you install 2016

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                  • WrCombsW
                    WrCombs
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                    alright, i got 3 installs today, I'll try to catch up with you guys later.

                    Can we fork this later?

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @WrCombs
                      last edited by

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
                      she wants to see what I can do.

                      Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

                      That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..
                      Hence why i was frustrated yesterday with the company.. like every other day.

                      You have conflicting orders it looks like - the GM told you to do it your way... your direct manager told you to do it his way... so which do you follow?

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
                        she wants to see what I can do.

                        Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

                        Don't forget Dustin - these are restaurants... IF he sets up Hyper-V, he will likely have to do it from within a base Windows Server install so he has a console to work from.

                        It's unlikely that there will be an "admin" workstation for him to use to manage this server in the future.

                        You can opt to choose a GUI when you install server 2019 hyper-v. . .

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                          @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          Any advice (other than leave the job - I've applied to a few places and plan on calling to follow up later today. ) on setting up this Server 2016?

                          Is there something specific about which you have questions? Or just general 2016 setup questions?

                          It's old Windows guidance to use a server for 10+. Today we generally say 12+, but it's not a crazy number.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                            last edited by

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...

                            What is a "Real server" to your boss? A physical installation? If so, setup Hyper-V and then build your installation on it. It's a real server, configured how it should be configured.

                            "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

                            Oh, well that's legit. Aloha requires that OS. So while the term "real server" is wrong (it should be "real server OS"), his requiring it is correct. Legally it's required at any size for the application serving situation.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

                              So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol

                              This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.

                              Probably never heard of them.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...

                                What is a "Real server" to your boss? A physical installation? If so, setup Hyper-V and then build your installation on it. It's a real server, configured how it should be configured.

                                "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

                                Oh, well that's legit. Aloha requires that OS. So while the term "real server" is wrong (it should be "real server OS"), his requiring it is correct. Legally it's required at any size for the application serving situation.

                                Right, and we had this discussion before. Which is why @WrCombs pushed to get Server 2016 used.

                                This is the OS that will be interacted with.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                                  last edited by

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

                                  So RedHat isn't a real OS, or Fedora, or OpenSuse or FreeBSD or any other OS? lol

                                  This is completely outside the topic of conversation - I'm guessing to his boss - those things simply don't exist.

                                  Sure, but to say something isn't real would be comparable to saying that Trains don't exist because airplanes do exist.

                                  That makes sense, but you have to remember I work with really Uneducated people -
                                  Linux is just myths to these people.

                                  You can always say "So wait, you say real server, then you say Windows... which did you mean?" 😉

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
                                    she wants to see what I can do.

                                    Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

                                    Don't forget Dustin - these are restaurants... IF he sets up Hyper-V, he will likely have to do it from within a base Windows Server install so he has a console to work from.

                                    It's unlikely that there will be an "admin" workstation for him to use to manage this server in the future.

                                    KVM doesn't need a remote station. It will give an easy to use local interface if you want (and by most default installs.) It's not Windows, that's a different issue. but if it is "easy GUI for managing" then Linux wins here, by a lot.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      But my new GM (real Boss in the sense of my Manager thinks.. lol) said that it's my install and to do it my way, so .. here we are.
                                      she wants to see what I can do.

                                      Then purchase 2019 and cals for it, if you want to downgrade (for whatever requirement) then you can do that. But setup Hyper-V on the hardware (assuming it has to look like Windows) with a GUI and then create a VM to run the site.

                                      That part is out of my hands- Cause this is what I was told to order..
                                      Hence why i was frustrated yesterday with the company.. like every other day.

                                      You have conflicting orders it looks like - the GM told you to do it your way... your direct manager told you to do it his way... so which do you follow?

                                      This feels like the real issue. One wants to see what you can do, one is sabotaging that so that they either don't get to see what you can do and/or they think you can't do it.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Apparently - and this is what pissed me off yesterday - We only us "Real Servers" (as my boss calls them) when we have a site of 10 terminal...

                                        What is a "Real server" to your boss? A physical installation? If so, setup Hyper-V and then build your installation on it. It's a real server, configured how it should be configured.

                                        "real Server" = Server OS to my Micro Manager (boss)

                                        Oh, well that's legit. Aloha requires that OS. So while the term "real server" is wrong (it should be "real server OS"), his requiring it is correct. Legally it's required at any size for the application serving situation.

                                        Right, and we had this discussion before. Which is why @WrCombs pushed to get Server 2016 used.

                                        This is the OS that will be interacted with.

                                        Yeah, other than being old, that part is all good.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch
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                                          Taking the 9yo to the orthodontist to have her braces removed.

                                          Next round in 5 years or so.

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                                            bnrstnr
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                                            My laptop basically self destructed when I managed to finally get Windows 10 1903 to install. After recovering all of my stuff, I'm now debating whether I should wait until 1910 (or whatever it's going to be called) to be released, or reinstall a fresh 1903 and see where I can get. I'm thinking I'm going to have problems either way.

                                            I was having massive driver issues with an AMD FirePro W4170M. My laptop is from 2014 and the amount of time I've spent on it this week alone would have covered the cost of new hardware, but unfortunately my boss doesn't see it that way.

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