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    • nadnerBN
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      Also having a giggle at the Orangutan that ejected a possum from the ornagutan enclosure at a zoo.

      Youtube Video

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      • gjacobseG
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        Preparing to drive and visit family in Virginia.

        Now- every time I see or use “Prepare to,…” I think of two different movies:

        “Down Periscope”
        “Spaceballs”

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        • siringoS
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          day 1 after 5 weeks off.
          come back and wsus has gone berserk, got servers with MBs of free space left.

          coming back gets harder each time, i really wonder why i come back some times.

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            Texkonc
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            Leaving at 3 to go to one of our locations in KS

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            • nadnerBN
              nadnerB @siringo
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              @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              day 1 after 5 weeks off.
              come back and wsus has gone berserk, got servers with MBs of free space left.

              coming back gets harder each time, i really wonder why i come back some times.

              Must have been an epic trip.
              Didn't get bogged on the Cape did you?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Working on a ZFS disaster.

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                • GUIn00bG
                  GUIn00b
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                  Snorkeling with every "flavor of penguin" (Linux distro) I can find because exploring is FUN! 🙂

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    hating ZFS more and more each day, lol

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                    • GUIn00bG
                      GUIn00b @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      hating ZFS more and more each day, lol

                      I've quickly discovered there is a fervent populus of ZFS defenders and apologists. It reminds me of the RAID-5 knife fights ....err I mean discussions 😉

                      You sure do know how to pick a nemesis, SAM 😆

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @GUIn00b
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                        @GUIn00b said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        hating ZFS more and more each day, lol

                        I've quickly discovered there is a fervent populus of ZFS defenders and apologists. It reminds me of the RAID-5 knife fights ....err I mean discussions 😉

                        You sure do know how to pick a nemesis, SAM 😆

                        More they picked one with me. I've been a storage and filesystem expert since before ZFS released and the ZFS team worked on the original SAM-SD design with me. The Cult of ZFS people literally picked a fight with me and the ZFS team ten years after this stuff was old hat, lol.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
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                          Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

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                          • siringoS
                            siringo
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                            reimaging malware infested laptops

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

                              Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

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                              • nadnerBN
                                nadnerB @siringo
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                                @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                reimaging malware infested laptops

                                Ewww wash your hands when you’re done 😜

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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                                  @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

                                  Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

                                  Or the ghost story of IT deployments.

                                  ProxMox with main storage on TruNAS... ooooooOOOOOOo scary!

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco @nadnerB
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                                    @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    reimaging malware infested laptops

                                    Ewww wash your hands when you’re done 😜

                                    ...whether or not there is malware, users are NASTY. That's why I keep nitrile gloves and isopropyl alcohol on my desk. And I make a point of putting the gloves on in front of the user before anything.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

                                      Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

                                      Or the ghost story of IT deployments.

                                      ProxMox with main storage on TruNAS... ooooooOOOOOOo scary!

                                      NO! Worse. TrueNAS on top of ProxMox. So ZFS on top of ZFS!!

                                      All the ZFS cultists are so ready to say why you can't do ZFS on top of hardware RAID to try to discredit hardware RAID (when in reality, it is ZFS that is unstable) that they ignore that doing it on top of ANY other system would have the exact same results. So they miss that ZFS on top of ZFS is far, far worse than ZFS on top of something stable.

                                      So the level of disaster is incredible. All teh complexity, all the fragility of ZFS (TWICE) and no ZFS advantages because it is stripped away by the encapsulation of the ZFS by the other ZFS system.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

                                        Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

                                        no, no backups. Data was all stored on TrueNAS. TrueNAS was stored on ProxMox. "ZFS is so reliable you don't need backups" was the idea, I guess. And no hardware failed. Just ZFS failed. Pure software failure. All hardware is pristine and working great. But ZFS just lost... everything due to internal design fragility that makes it prone to data loss on reboot.

                                        Original IT company seems to have known this and disabled all reboots. Kept them up for 2.5 years. First reboot after going live resulted in total data loss because ZFS on Linux isn't expected to reliably survive reboots in that way!

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Kept them up for 2.5 years.

                                          Tf?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Kept them up for 2.5 years.

                                            Tf?

                                            Right? One reboot and.... ZFS can't find any drives because ZFS uses ephemeral designations for its drives and has no known way to discover drives once that ephemeral identification is lost. So any random reboot can cause the array to just... vanish, even though ZFS can see all the drives just fine and knows that they are ZFS drives.

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