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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB @siringo
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      @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      reimaging malware infested laptops

      Ewww wash your hands when you’re done 😜

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

        Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

        Or the ghost story of IT deployments.

        ProxMox with main storage on TruNAS... ooooooOOOOOOo scary!

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        • RojoLocoR
          RojoLoco @nadnerB
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          @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @siringo said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          reimaging malware infested laptops

          Ewww wash your hands when you’re done 😜

          ...whether or not there is malware, users are NASTY. That's why I keep nitrile gloves and isopropyl alcohol on my desk. And I make a point of putting the gloves on in front of the user before anything.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

            Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

            Or the ghost story of IT deployments.

            ProxMox with main storage on TruNAS... ooooooOOOOOOo scary!

            NO! Worse. TrueNAS on top of ProxMox. So ZFS on top of ZFS!!

            All the ZFS cultists are so ready to say why you can't do ZFS on top of hardware RAID to try to discredit hardware RAID (when in reality, it is ZFS that is unstable) that they ignore that doing it on top of ANY other system would have the exact same results. So they miss that ZFS on top of ZFS is far, far worse than ZFS on top of something stable.

            So the level of disaster is incredible. All teh complexity, all the fragility of ZFS (TWICE) and no ZFS advantages because it is stripped away by the encapsulation of the ZFS by the other ZFS system.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

              Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

              no, no backups. Data was all stored on TrueNAS. TrueNAS was stored on ProxMox. "ZFS is so reliable you don't need backups" was the idea, I guess. And no hardware failed. Just ZFS failed. Pure software failure. All hardware is pristine and working great. But ZFS just lost... everything due to internal design fragility that makes it prone to data loss on reboot.

              Original IT company seems to have known this and disabled all reboots. Kept them up for 2.5 years. First reboot after going live resulted in total data loss because ZFS on Linux isn't expected to reliably survive reboots in that way!

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Kept them up for 2.5 years.

                Tf?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                  @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Kept them up for 2.5 years.

                  Tf?

                  Right? One reboot and.... ZFS can't find any drives because ZFS uses ephemeral designations for its drives and has no known way to discover drives once that ephemeral identification is lost. So any random reboot can cause the array to just... vanish, even though ZFS can see all the drives just fine and knows that they are ZFS drives.

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Also, today is yet another day of slowly and expensively helping a company recover both their ProxMox and TrueNAS deployments that were done on ZFS and all was lost and no vendor had any means of recovering anything.

                    Did they back up their PRoxMox to their TruNAS and they both went under?

                    no, no backups. Data was all stored on TrueNAS. TrueNAS was stored on ProxMox. "ZFS is so reliable you don't need backups" was the idea, I guess. And no hardware failed. Just ZFS failed. Pure software failure. All hardware is pristine and working great. But ZFS just lost... everything due to internal design fragility that makes it prone to data loss on reboot.

                    Original IT company seems to have known this and disabled all reboots. Kept them up for 2.5 years. First reboot after going live resulted in total data loss because ZFS on Linux isn't expected to reliably survive reboots in that way!

                    Dang, and here I thought my ghost story was scarry!

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                    • siringoS
                      siringo
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                      dull basic sysadmin stuff on a sunny friday.

                      go hawks!

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                      • RojoLocoR
                        RojoLoco
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                        Working from home (kinda), but mostly running around making sure everything is ready for our trip tomorrow. The band has a gig in Piedmont, Alabama tomorrow at an outdoor doom festival. We're not really sure what to expect, but we are the co-headliners. At least we have t-shirts to sell.

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                        • siringoS
                          siringo
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                          working on a saturday!

                          listening to David Nance

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                          • siringoS
                            siringo
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                            updating veeam on servers with cylance AV. not a pretty exercise, not terrible, but could be easier.

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                            • nadnerBN
                              nadnerB
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                              Moving from iOS to Android...
                              Honestly wasn't ready to but events have transpired to move things along.

                              Not sure how I feel about it.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse @nadnerB
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                                @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                Moving from iOS to Android...
                                Honestly wasn't ready to but events have transpired to move things along.

                                Not sure how I feel about it.

                                I have been on iOS for ,.. since iPhone 3….

                                I do need Android for one task,.. which is a shame. Application isn’t available for iOS. (WoAD)

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                                • nadnerBN
                                  nadnerB @gjacobse
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                                  @gjacobse I've only been using them since ~2016
                                  Got quite used to it.

                                  Was on Windows Phone before that, and Android before that.
                                  Last version was 2.3 on an HTC Desire!

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs
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                                    Few updates-
                                    Been getting pretty familiar with wordpress and squarespace recently
                                    Got my very own first digital camera that isn't a cell phone
                                    Upgraded to 3 monitors at my desk for work

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      Got my very own first digital camera that isn't a cell phone

                                      Just recently sold mine!

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                                      • nadnerBN
                                        nadnerB @Obsolesce
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                                        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        Got my very own first digital camera that isn't a cell phone

                                        Just recently sold mine!

                                        Whaaaat? Not doing astrophotography any more?

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                                        • GUIn00bG
                                          GUIn00b @nadnerB
                                          last edited by

                                          @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          Moving from iOS to Android...
                                          Honestly wasn't ready to but events have transpired to move things along.

                                          Not sure how I feel about it.

                                          My condolences. I'm a PC/Android guy but it doesn't matter who you are. Completely changing platforms SUCKS no matter who you are lol

                                          On that note, the past 2 years or so, I've been getting fed up with tinkering with Android. It was the reason I fell in love with it to begin with, but Android 1.x/2.x etc. was a LONG time ago. It's evolved to something I don't recognize as "fun, innovative, interesting, empowering" anymore as I once did. I'm LITERALLY SERIOUSLY considering switching to an iPhone. Google seriously disgusts me more than M$ + Wal-Mart combined anymore these days. It's a shameful disgrace. Oh well, things change. Adapt as needed, I guess lol

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @nadnerB
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                                            @nadnerB said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            Got my very own first digital camera that isn't a cell phone

                                            Just recently sold mine!

                                            Whaaaat? Not doing astrophotography any more?

                                            Still doing it, but in between cameras right now. I still have the planetary camera, but looking to get a dedicated astrophotography camera now. Couldn't justify keeping the mirrorless camera and wanted to sell it before Black Friday gets too close. I'm holding out for a deal on the camera I'm looking to buy, though it's tempting to get it used for a nice price.

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