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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @wirestyle22
      last edited by JaredBusch

      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

      There we go. Now the answer comes out.

      The server holding DHCP and DNS roles is down.

      This is the problem.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @coliver
        last edited by

        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @coliver Can't I use one domain as the primary (FSMO)? Why is that not an issue. I'm sure I'm not understanding something about this.

        One domain as the primary? There is no more primary or secondary domain controller all of them are now master/master.

        Only one has FSMO roles though and that is the server that is down

        That's fine. That shouldn't matter you can have the domain controller fail without issues for a little while. Generally a good amount of time as the Master/Master synchronization does its job.

        In theory, weeks or more, but.... it sounds like his DCs were not set up properly and don't fail over.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

          There we go. Now the answer comes out.

          The server holder DHCP and DNS roles is down.

          This is the problem.

          Exactly as predicted, simple network configuration error. Not even domain related.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
            last edited by

            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

            Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

              There we go. Now the answer comes out.

              The server holder DHCP and DNS roles is down.

              This is the problem.

              Exactly as predicted, simple network configuration error. Not even domain related.

              Exactly. Seizing FSMO roles would do zero to resolve the issue.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                  Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                  Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                  BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

                  That's my guess as well.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                    Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                    Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                    Which would also explain why he can't rejoin the network.

                    Would still be good to know if the second DC is up and running.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      So ignore everything related to omg, it is a DC.

                      You simply resolve a normal basic VMWare VM issue.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                        Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                        Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                        Which would also explain why he can't rejoin the network.

                        Would still be good to know if the second DC is up and running.

                        Not relevant to resolving the issue at hand.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                          last edited by

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          So ignore everything related to omg, it is a DC.

                          You simply resolve a normal basic VMWare VM issue.

                          This ^^^

                          Time to work through good, old fashioned triage.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver
                            last edited by

                            No redundant DNS and no DHCP failover.... basic networking issues. Now that you've discovered them you can fix them permanently.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                              Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                              Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                              BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

                              How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                Done up and nothing else matters.

                                You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

                                    Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

                                    Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

                                    BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

                                    How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

                                    If you have no backup, then browse the datastore as we told you and find out if all the VM files are still there.

                                    In terms of DR, the only important one is the VMDK(s)

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

                                      That is a step down the road if the VM is completely unrecoverable.

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                                      • BRRABillB
                                        BRRABill @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                        Done up and nothing else matters.

                                        You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                                        So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                          last edited by

                                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                          Done up and nothing else matters.

                                          You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                                          So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                                          This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @BRRABill
                                            last edited by coliver

                                            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                                            Done up and nothing else matters.

                                            You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                                            So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                                            This is a down DNS and DHCP server for all intents and purposes at this point. We don't care about AD until he gets DNS and DHCP back up and running.

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