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    • coliverC
      coliver
      last edited by

      No redundant DNS and no DHCP failover.... basic networking issues. Now that you've discovered them you can fix them permanently.

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      • wirestyle22W
        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

        Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

        Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

        BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

        How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

          Done up and nothing else matters.

          You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
            last edited by coliver

            If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
              last edited by JaredBusch

              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @JaredBusch It has both. I set a static IP on the computer I am on currently and can connect to the internet.

              Now that you are online again, is DNS working on the DC that is up? If so, good. If not, why not?

              Willing to bet that the second DNS server is not in the DHCP config so the clients only looked to the first.

              BUt that is unfixable at the moment.

              How do I make it fixable? This places backups are absolutely horrendous and I'm sure it is not recoverable. I have been fighting with them to change it and then this happens.

              If you have no backup, then browse the datastore as we told you and find out if all the VM files are still there.

              In terms of DR, the only important one is the VMDK(s)

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                If you have no backups then you need to look at DHCP and getting a second/new server set up. Or seeing if your firewall has the ability to hand out addresses that may be the quickest way to do it.

                That is a step down the road if the VM is completely unrecoverable.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @JaredBusch
                  last edited by

                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                  The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                  Done up and nothing else matters.

                  You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                  So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                    The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                    Done up and nothing else matters.

                    You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                    So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                    This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @BRRABill
                      last edited by coliver

                      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      The fastest thing to do is to do is to simply restore from Veeam/Unitrends/Whatever.

                      Done up and nothing else matters.

                      You can then prioritize resolving the fagility in the current setup.

                      So AD on the down DC would not have been syncing with the other DC he has if DNS was set up incorrectly?

                      This is a down DNS and DHCP server for all intents and purposes at this point. We don't care about AD until he gets DNS and DHCP back up and running.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @JaredBusch
                        last edited by

                        @JaredBusch said

                        This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                        He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

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                        • coliverC
                          coliver @BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said

                          This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                          He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                          It only matters if that other DC is also a DNS and DHCP server.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said

                            This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                            He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                            Because this is a DHCP/DNS down issue. not an AD down issue.

                            This has nothing to do with DC replication.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said

                              This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                              He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                              It only matters if that other DC is also a DNS and DHCP server.

                              And this is not possible in a 2003/2008 environment. DHCP redundancy was only added in 2012 R2 (maybe 2012).

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill it is broke because almost certainly his DHCP scope is only handing out the down DNS server as a DNS for the LAN.

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                                  • wirestyle22W
                                    wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by wirestyle22

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                    When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable". This is applying to all servers though, not just the one that is down.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                      last edited by

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                      @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                      When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                      How are you browsing the data store?

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by coliver

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                        When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                        You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                        0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          @JaredBusch said

                                          This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

                                          He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

                                          It only matters if that other DC is also a DNS and DHCP server.

                                          And this is not possible in a 2003/2008 environment. DHCP redundancy was only added in 2012 R2 (maybe 2012).

                                          DHCP is not what I am thinking about.

                                          It was my understand that AD and DNS are linked. AKA, DNS is required to run AD.

                                          I understand what you are saying. But if AD was installed and working correctly, then so potentially was DNS. So there could be in theory a working DC with AD and DNS already on the network.

                                          Hence if he is doing a restore of a DC with another working DC in the domain, it could cause even more issues.

                                          Or am I totally wrong here?

                                          DHCP, as was mentioned, could be fixed by anything. I am more thinking about AD and DNS which as I said might actually be fine.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                            When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                            You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                            0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                            I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

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