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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      @BRRABill said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

      What are the use cases for the ERL at this point?

      the ERL is is pure router. no switch chip. It also has slightly more power and more storage.

      I use them a lot simply because they are already in place though.

      Most branch offices would be an ER-X now.
      The main office would be an ER-PoE.

      I'm liking the ER-PoE at the house. Just being able to power Pro or Lite AP from the same box is really handy. Still just the one AC-PRO at the house tho.

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      • thanksajdotcomT
        thanksajdotcom
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        Thanks guys. I will let you know how this goes, if I end up getting a second WAN connection, and I'll report back when that happens. I think the Ubiquiti equipment is sounding like the best bet though. 🙂

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          thanksajdotcom
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          So update on this:

          I will be starting at Spectrum/TWC/Charter one week from today. I know people who work there and the cost of them giving you internet and tv, etc is negligible. So the plan is to keep my current 100/100Mbps FiOS and then get whatever the highest level TWC connection I can and run both, considering one will be basically free. Just to be sure, the ER-X can be setup that way, correct? The plan is to get an ER-X, if that's the case, use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections, and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

          Thanks,
          A.J.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @thanksajdotcom
            last edited by

            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            So update on this:

            I will be starting at Spectrum/TWC/Charter one week from today. I know people who work there and the cost of them giving you internet and tv, etc is negligible. So the plan is to keep my current 100/100Mbps FiOS and then get whatever the highest level TWC connection I can and run both, considering one will be basically free. Just to be sure, the ER-X can be setup that way, correct? The plan is to get an ER-X, if that's the case, use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections, and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

            Thanks,
            A.J.

            At that point, I'd actually be looking at something a little faster than the ER-X as they're limited to 500mb/s routing. The ER X SFP or ER PoE both can do 1gb/s routing. That 500mb/s of routing is the only real drawback of the ER-X.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              So update on this:

              ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

              Don't you mean 2/5?

              and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

              Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                So update on this:

                ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                Don't you mean 2/5?

                Only three routing ports. Rest are switched.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  So update on this:

                  ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                  Don't you mean 2/5?

                  and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                  Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                  The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                  Am I looking at the wrong one?

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                  • thanksajdotcomT
                    thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    Also, the reason for using the dd-wrt router as the AP/switch is because of cost, mostly. I don't have equipment that can handle the speed and dual-wan connections I want to throw at it, which is why I was looking for a router that could handle it. But I do have APs that will work, so until I can afford to drop the $$ for new APs from Ubiquiti, then I'll just stick with what I have.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @thanksajdotcom
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                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      So update on this:

                      ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                      Don't you mean 2/5?

                      and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                      Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                      The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                      Am I looking at the wrong one?

                      That's an ER-L, not an ER-X. Nothing wrong with either. I suppose you could see a performance increase in the ER-L over the ER-X, but for home, this seems unlikely.

                      The ER-L is nearly 2x the price of the ER-X and does not have any switch ports on it, also does not use nor provide POE for an AP.

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                      • thanksajdotcomT
                        thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                        So update on this:

                        ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                        Don't you mean 2/5?

                        and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                        Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                        The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                        Am I looking at the wrong one?

                        That's an ER-L, not an ER-X. Nothing wrong with either. I suppose you could see a performance increase in the ER-L over the ER-X, but for home, this seems unlikely.

                        The ER-L is nearly 2x the price of the ER-X and does not have any switch ports on it, also does not use nor provide POE for an AP.

                        https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeRouter-Advanced-Gigabit-Ethernet/dp/B00YFJT29C

                        So this one?

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                        • thanksajdotcomT
                          thanksajdotcom @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          So update on this:

                          ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                          Don't you mean 2/5?

                          and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                          Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                          The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                          Am I looking at the wrong one?

                          That's an ER-L, not an ER-X. Nothing wrong with either. I suppose you could see a performance increase in the ER-L over the ER-X, but for home, this seems unlikely.

                          The ER-L is nearly 2x the price of the ER-X and does not have any switch ports on it, also does not use nor provide POE for an AP.

                          Also, don't really care about PoE in this case. I have outlets that will do the job. However, if I go with the X and by some chance get a PoE AP, then that would be handy.

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @thanksajdotcom
                            last edited by

                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                            So update on this:

                            ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                            Don't you mean 2/5?

                            and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                            Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                            The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                            Am I looking at the wrong one?

                            That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

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                            • thanksajdotcomT
                              thanksajdotcom @travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                              @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                              So update on this:

                              ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                              Don't you mean 2/5?

                              and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                              Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                              The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                              Am I looking at the wrong one?

                              That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                              For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

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                              • thanksajdotcomT
                                thanksajdotcom
                                last edited by

                                Looking up instructions for how to setup the dual-wan load-balancing, I found this:
                                https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205145990-EdgeRouter-Dual-WAN-Load-Balance-Feature

                                I'm assuming this would work with the ER-X?

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                                  Alex Sage @thanksajdotcom
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                                  @thanksajdotcom There is a wizard 😉

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    So update on this:

                                    ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                                    Don't you mean 2/5?

                                    and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                                    Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                                    The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                                    Am I looking at the wrong one?

                                    That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                                    For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                                    Just use the ER-X ($50) and the UAP-AC-LITE ($77)
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                                    0_1491234930756_upload-a7458804-a24c-46e0-b2f3-98c38d389c84

                                    That is $127 shipped with Prime.

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @thanksajdotcom
                                      last edited by

                                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      So update on this:

                                      ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                                      Don't you mean 2/5?

                                      and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                                      Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                                      The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                                      Am I looking at the wrong one?

                                      That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                                      For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                                      Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                                      Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

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                                      • thanksajdotcomT
                                        thanksajdotcom @travisdh1
                                        last edited by

                                        @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        So update on this:

                                        ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                                        Don't you mean 2/5?

                                        and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                                        Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                                        The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                                        Am I looking at the wrong one?

                                        That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                                        For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                                        Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                                        Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                                        See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

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                                        • thanksajdotcomT
                                          thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          So update on this:

                                          ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                                          Don't you mean 2/5?

                                          and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                                          Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                                          The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                                          Am I looking at the wrong one?

                                          That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                                          For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                                          Just use the ER-X ($50) and the UAP-AC-LITE ($77)
                                          0_1491234955369_upload-3b3a68d9-b0c2-43c8-ab18-fd1ea18c461c
                                          0_1491234930756_upload-a7458804-a24c-46e0-b2f3-98c38d389c84

                                          That is $127 shipped with Prime.

                                          Yeah, the ER-X will be what I go with. I'll just stick to the AP I have for now until I upgrade to the Unifi AP.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                                            last edited by

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            So update on this:

                                            ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                                            Don't you mean 2/5?

                                            and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                                            Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                                            The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                                            Am I looking at the wrong one?

                                            That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                                            For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                                            Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                                            Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                                            See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                                            Mbps is Megabits. MBps is Megabytes. There is no lower case M. And really it should be Mb/s and MB/s.

                                            Remember that when you are dealing with only bits and bytes it HAS to b/s and B/s. If you use any letter other than the b/B to indicate that, you lack the ability to have it work consistently.

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