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      Alex Sage @thanksajdotcom
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      @thanksajdotcom There is a wizard 😉

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
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        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

        @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

        @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

        @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

        So update on this:

        ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

        Don't you mean 2/5?

        and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

        Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

        The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

        Am I looking at the wrong one?

        That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

        For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

        Just use the ER-X ($50) and the UAP-AC-LITE ($77)
        0_1491234955369_upload-3b3a68d9-b0c2-43c8-ab18-fd1ea18c461c
        0_1491234930756_upload-a7458804-a24c-46e0-b2f3-98c38d389c84

        That is $127 shipped with Prime.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @thanksajdotcom
          last edited by

          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

          So update on this:

          ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

          Don't you mean 2/5?

          and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

          Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

          The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

          Am I looking at the wrong one?

          That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

          For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

          Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

          Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

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          • thanksajdotcomT
            thanksajdotcom @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

            So update on this:

            ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

            Don't you mean 2/5?

            and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

            Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

            The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

            Am I looking at the wrong one?

            That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

            For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

            Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

            Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

            See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

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            • thanksajdotcomT
              thanksajdotcom @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

              So update on this:

              ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

              Don't you mean 2/5?

              and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

              Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

              The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

              Am I looking at the wrong one?

              That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

              For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

              Just use the ER-X ($50) and the UAP-AC-LITE ($77)
              0_1491234955369_upload-3b3a68d9-b0c2-43c8-ab18-fd1ea18c461c
              0_1491234930756_upload-a7458804-a24c-46e0-b2f3-98c38d389c84

              That is $127 shipped with Prime.

              Yeah, the ER-X will be what I go with. I'll just stick to the AP I have for now until I upgrade to the Unifi AP.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                last edited by

                @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                So update on this:

                ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                Don't you mean 2/5?

                and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                Am I looking at the wrong one?

                That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                Mbps is Megabits. MBps is Megabytes. There is no lower case M. And really it should be Mb/s and MB/s.

                Remember that when you are dealing with only bits and bytes it HAS to b/s and B/s. If you use any letter other than the b/B to indicate that, you lack the ability to have it work consistently.

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                • thanksajdotcomT
                  thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                  So update on this:

                  ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                  Don't you mean 2/5?

                  and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                  Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                  The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                  Am I looking at the wrong one?

                  That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                  For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                  Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                  Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                  See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                  Mbps is Megabits. MBps is Megabytes. There is no lower case M. And really it should be Mb/s and MB/s.

                  Remember that when you are dealing with only bits and bytes it HAS to b/s and B/s. If you use any letter other than the b/B to indicate that, you lack the ability to have it work consistently.

                  Ok, I usually always see the M as capital but I have seen documentation, posts, and advertisements using mb, and I have usually chalked it up to either non-technical marketing people doing the typing or just laziness in typing it.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @thanksajdotcom
                    last edited by

                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                    So update on this:

                    ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                    Don't you mean 2/5?

                    and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                    Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                    The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                    Am I looking at the wrong one?

                    That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                    For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                    Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                    Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                    See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                    It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                      So update on this:

                      ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                      Don't you mean 2/5?

                      and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                      Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                      The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                      Am I looking at the wrong one?

                      That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                      For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                      Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                      Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                      See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                      It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

                      I actually posted about Curtis getting this wrong just this morning as it told someone bad info in a VOIP thread again.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @travisdh1 said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @Dashrender said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                          So update on this:

                          ... use 2/3 of the ports for WAN connections,

                          Don't you mean 2/5?

                          and run the third port to an AP/switch I have running with dd-wrt.

                          Why are you using the dd-wrt? The ER-X is a firewall/router. I'd use UAPs for APs.

                          The one I was looking at was this one: https://smile.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-EdgeMax-EdgeRouter-ERLite-3-Ethernet/dp/B00CPRVF5K

                          Am I looking at the wrong one?

                          That would be a great one for what you need to do with it.

                          For almost twice the price, like @Dashrender said, is it worth the double memory for a home network? Even if my combined internet speed is 200Mb/sec, is it worth the extra upfront money?

                          Ah, at only 200Mb/sec, you should only NEED 400mb/s, so the ER-X and it's 500mb/s (bits, not bytes unless I've missed a huge trend in what ISPs are quoting), so yeah, stick with the ER-X.

                          Also, more than slightly off topic. I was always trained that a capital letter denoted bytes while a lowercase letter denoted bits. So networking was always 100mb/s and file sizes were always 100MB.

                          See, I always saw it was based on whether the "b" was capital or not. MB = megabyte and Mb = megabit. But I also see mbps and Mbps used in networking, so I'm not sure what the "official" standard is.

                          It does actually matter technically, but no one uses the standards in a standard fashion.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units

                          I actually posted about Curtis getting this wrong just this morning as it told someone bad info in a VOIP thread again.

                          Well the K/k is the only one that does have a standard for upper and lower. The rest are always upper.
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                            scottalanmiller
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                            Yeah, that's weird. I wonder why that is that kb, KB, Kb and kB are okay but only Mb and MB.

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                              JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                              I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                              In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

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                                scottalanmiller
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                                The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                  I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                                  In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

                                  Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                    The k never means what Curtis said, though. He told someone it was kb/s not Kb/s meaning bits vs. bytes.

                                    Yeah, but Curtis...

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by JaredBusch

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                      I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                                      In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

                                      Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

                                      These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above. Or this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541-2002

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @JaredBusch said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                        I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                                        In my experience, people tend to do what @thanksajdotcom said. They capitalize based on the Byte/bit capitalization.

                                        Yes, over the 30 years I've known about the notation, I've never seen it used any other way until the last few months. It's been an established standard for SO long.

                                        These settings were not standardized officially by IEEE until 2002. See the wiki link above.

                                        Sure, but they were IT standards long before that. IEEE is just a private organization that decided to take that existing standard and publish it themselves.

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                                          thanksajdotcom @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                          I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                                          I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @thanksajdotcom
                                            last edited by

                                            @thanksajdotcom said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Dual-WAN Router Recommendations:

                                            I've only noticed in the last few months a sudden shift in using it correctly to people thinking that random other letters could be used to mean bits or bytes. People not knowing how to use it at all I've always seen. But the K/k or M/m thing I've only noticed recently. Some new trendy misinformation I can only imagine. Like people trying to sound cool using "revert" to mean "reply".

                                            I've seen it longer than that but never consistently. It seems to fade in and out of popularity, especially when it comes to commercials for ISPs. And I hear revert instead of reply all the time, but that's because my support team is in India.

                                            YOu mean they try some fake English then.... revert to the real meaning again? 😉

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