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    • ntozierN
      ntozier
      last edited by

      Honestly if it's as bad as you are saying it is. I would compose a list. I would document the whole thing with screen shots (and pictures) and I would hand it all to your boss and tell him to consult his lawyer as to whether or not they are going to sue him... He obviously wasn't providing them with what he was billing them for. Of course wait until you got the domain transferred. Then you can tell him that you aren't allowed to speak to him, and that all communications should be routed through "name of lawfirm here".

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @ntozier
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        @ntozier

        While I don't disagree, the issues that the previous tech left should be documented, and provided to the customer so they can address the issue. I don't think that @Mike-Davis should even communicate with the old tech at all.

        It's not his place to speak to anyone but his customer. If the client asks that of @Mike-Davis then ok.

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        • IRJI
          IRJ @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

          @ntozier

          While I don't disagree, the issues that the previous tech left should be documented, and provided to the customer so they can address the issue. I don't think that @Mike-Davis should even communicate with the old tech at all.

          It's not his place to speak to anyone but his customer. If the client asks that of @Mike-Davis then ok.

          I would highly recommend that this company pay for the documentation process. Otherwise I wouldn't touch the company. @ntozier is spot on. If they won't pay for the documentation process then they are already lost. You can't start fixing things if you don't document what exactly is wrong.

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @IRJ
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            @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

            @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

            @ntozier

            While I don't disagree, the issues that the previous tech left should be documented, and provided to the customer so they can address the issue. I don't think that @Mike-Davis should even communicate with the old tech at all.

            It's not his place to speak to anyone but his customer. If the client asks that of @Mike-Davis then ok.

            I would highly recommend that this company pay for the documentation process. Otherwise I wouldn't touch the company. @ntozier is spot on. If they won't pay for the documentation process then they are already lost. You can't start fixing things if you don't document what exactly is wrong.

            That is a good point, to go through the existing organization and document the issues that are present. This gives @Mike-Davis a checklist of things that need to be addressed.

            More likely what will happen is that he'll be working on something and discover an issue.

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            • Mike DavisM
              Mike Davis
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              I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @Mike Davis
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                @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
                  last edited by

                  @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                  I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                  I need this shared.....

                  I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @IRJ
                    last edited by

                    @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                    @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                    I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                    Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?

                    Who needs a server at that point.... or ethernet clips, or drive bays or anything.

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                    • Mike DavisM
                      Mike Davis
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                      Some of the stuff, the tech could say that the owner didn't want to spend money on a new server, so he couldn't do anything.

                      Other stuff, like using the everyone group instead of the domain users group when creating the main file share there is just no excuse for except for incompetence.

                      He probably did this because some people are logging in under domain accounts and some are local accounts and couldn't figure out why the share wasn't working.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                        @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                        I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                        I need this shared.....

                        I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.

                        As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.

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                        • dafyreD
                          dafyre @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                          @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                          @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                          I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                          Who needs the "cloud" when you have duct tape?

                          Who needs a server at that point.... or ethernet clips, or drive bays or anything.

                          Not me, just a block of wood and enough duct tape to hold the motherboard down and the hard drive up.

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                          • dafyreD
                            dafyre @IRJ
                            last edited by

                            @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                            @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                            @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                            I have a running list. I have screen shots. I have photos of the server literally being held together with duct tape.

                            I need this shared.....

                            I've seen people use rubber bands and scotch tap to fit an SSD to the original 3.5" winchester, but duct tape.. come on.

                            As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.

                            True... True... But I'd settle for the picture of the server held together with Duct tape.

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                            • Mike DavisM
                              Mike Davis @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                              As much as I want to see the issues, he probably shouldn't share a report even if information is redacted. Because if the company name somehow gets out, they can be hacked in about 10 seconds lol.

                              The ironic thing is that the owner was so concerned about security that he doesn't have any wifi in the place. -Good thing too, the guy probably would have secured it with WEP, if anything.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Mike Davis
                                last edited by

                                @Mike-Davis and what exactly is wrong with WEP?!

                                (sarcasm boys)

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                                • Mike DavisM
                                  Mike Davis
                                  last edited by

                                  @dafyre said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                  But I'd settle for the picture of the server held together with Duct tape.

                                  @dafyre Here you go:

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred Banned @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                    Might as well have built the server using a pizza box...

                                    I've seen that before...

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                      @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                      @Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                      @travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!

                                      OK this begs for an explanation.

                                      It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.

                                      As did Amiga 🙂 Well NewTek, actually.

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @Mike Davis
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                                        @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                        @Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                        @travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!

                                        OK this begs for an explanation.

                                        It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.

                                        Yes they did, the O2. I've been very tempted to try picking up a working model on ebay.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
                                          last edited by

                                          @travisdh1 said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          @Mike-Davis said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          @Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                          @travisdh1 finally someone who actually knows what a pizza box is in IT!

                                          OK this begs for an explanation.

                                          It was a nickname for the shape of it. I think SGI had a box nicknamed the toaster around that same time.

                                          Yes they did, the O2. I've been very tempted to try picking up a working model on ebay.

                                          Some old school stuff right there.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in old MSP wants to know what they did wrong:

                                            That's the "doesn't know what a pizza box" problem that I was referring to. 1U servers are not pizza boxes, they are not square. THat's a new thing that people who don't know Sparcstations, but have overheard people use the term, mistakenly call them now. A 1U should never be called a pizza box.

                                            This seems like IT elitism for the sake of elitism. Sure the original pizzabox was the Sparcstation - the second gen pizzabox was a 1U rackmount server.

                                            If that was the intention, then that would be fine. But a repeated accidental misuse of a term is not the same thing at all. Being knowledgeable and correct is never elitism. Calling a 1U a pizzabox is just an alternative fact. People heard the term, didn't understand it and wanted to sound cool and it got repeated. Exactly the same as blade servers. Lots of people call 1U servers that, too. And it is always wrong. People know one thing and want to use buzz words so apply them to anything that they see. Cloud, virtual, etc.

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