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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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      @black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

      Would be nice if XenServer was forked or repackaged into a different version. Maybe call it XenOS and include newer XenCenter that is web-based like ESXi Embedded Host Client.

      And that doesn't disable SELinux, CentOS Repo and support other file systems like ext4 and XFS and instead of vhd adopt vhdx.

      These discussions will be happening every time XenServer is release because it's still linked to Citrix one way or another.

      It's open source on xenserver.org. You go to Citrix website and they confuse you with Standard or Enterprise.
      And then after all that you have Citrix XenCenter.

      I've been holding those words in for awhile now.

      Someone needs to take the core, update it, replace the missing features that Citrix stripped out years ago (DRBD, Fault Tolerance), integrate XO and package it that way 🙂 XenCenter is a joke and undermines the ecosystem.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill @matteo nunziati
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        @matteo-nunziati said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

        @BRRABill I think this link clarifies it

        Lots of clarity. My favorite is the last line. Various. 🙂

        "Additionally, there are a small number of XenServer components which are not able to be open sourced. They are listed below, together with the reason they must remain closed.

        Component Description Owner Reason
        v6d License server daemon Citrix Links to closed source library
        (various drivers) System drivers and user tools Various Third-party components which Citrix does not own"

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        • matteo nunziatiM
          matteo nunziati
          last edited by

          Btw... What about opensuse? Now they should move to a 4 year support window(*)... Do they still distribute xen hypervisor components or did they dropped it like redhat?

          (*) still I do not know if they change kernel and other base stuff more frequently...

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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            @matteo-nunziati said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

            Btw... What about opensuse? Now they should move to a 4 year support window(*)... Do they still distribute xen hypervisor components or did they dropped it like redhat?

            (*) still I do not know if they change kernel and other base stuff more frequently...

            Suse has two models. Leap is in lock step with Suse Enterprise. Tumbleweed updates constantly.

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            • matteo nunziatiM
              matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
              last edited by matteo nunziati

              @scottalanmiller yes but if you look at what has been updated recently in leap, they have diverged from SLES kernel 😕 It is not clear what it is really in leap from SLES and what from community.

              therefore hardware certifications are not there. it is a trial and error thing. For everything else it seems nice, they also have a great primer for virtualization on leap with xen

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                BTW: has anyone actually upgraded to 7.1 yet?

                I was on their forums recently and it seems as though people are having a lot of issues with it.

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                • momurdaM
                  momurda
                  last edited by

                  I am on 7.1, no issues so far except i had to contact unitrends and get a beta patch installed. Didnt read the patch notes for the UEB appliance, 7.1 isnt supported yet.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill @momurda
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                    @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                    I am on 7.1, no issues so far except i had to contact unitrends and get a beta patch installed. Didnt read the patch notes for the UEB appliance, 7.1 isnt supported yet.

                    Did you upgrade? And if so, from which version?

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                    • momurdaM
                      momurda
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                      I did an upgrade from 6.5 to 7.1. I had moved all my vdi off local XS host storage before the upgrade. One of the hosts upgraded to the new partition format, one still has the less than v7.0 partition layout. I am going to fix that soon.
                      One of the good things about XS is that designating new master is easy. Reinstalling a host is easy. Rejoining a pool and getting its settings is easy.

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill @momurda
                        last edited by

                        @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                        I did an upgrade from 6.5 to 7.1. I had moved all my vdi off local XS host storage before the upgrade. One of the hosts upgraded to the new partition format, one still has the less than v7.0 partition layout. I am going to fix that soon.
                        One of the good things about XS is that designating new master is easy. Reinstalling a host is easy. Rejoining a pool and getting its settings is easy.

                        That is what I am looking to do.

                        Why did the one host not upgrade to the new layout? That is what seems to be happening to a lot of people on the XS forum. The installation seems to freeze at the partitioning section, and leaves the XS inoperable. Looks like a bug, maybe.

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                        • momurdaM
                          momurda
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                          Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
                          I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.

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                          • BRRABillB
                            BRRABill @momurda
                            last edited by

                            @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                            Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
                            I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.

                            Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!

                            I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)

                            Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.

                            Should be relatively painless.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @BRRABill
                              last edited by

                              @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                              @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                              Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
                              I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.

                              Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!

                              I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)

                              Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.

                              Should be relatively painless.

                              You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
                                I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.

                                Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!

                                I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)

                                Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.

                                Should be relatively painless.

                                You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.

                                It's been fine for me, but I eventually am going to move to HD.

                                I figure it's the same process whether it dies, or I just migrate, so why rush?

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                  @black3dynamite said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                  @BRRABill said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                  @momurda said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                  Not sure why it didnt. Perhaps there was an orphaned/hidden vdi leftover from some point in the past.
                                  I just checked to make sure it was able to host vms, then moved on. Reinstalling a host takes about 10 minutes, ill get around to it eventually.

                                  Yeah it is relatively painless, though always makes me nervous!

                                  I am considering moving off the USB onto a RAID array for boot. (I have a spare one sitting unused.)

                                  Backup VDI info. Reinstall XS to RAID array. Restore VDI info.

                                  Should be relatively painless.

                                  You can avoid a lot of headaches by not installing XenServer on USB.

                                  It's been fine for me, but I eventually am going to move to HD.

                                  I figure it's the same process whether it dies, or I just migrate, so why rush?

                                  FFS! Didn't I hit you on this earlier?

                                  Because one is not an emergency situation while the other is, with people beating down the door wanting to know why shit is down.

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier
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                                    7.2 is here guys 😉

                                    https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xenserver-7-2/

                                    Calm down, it's not a big step from 7.1. In fact, it's the start of a more "rolling releasing" thing for 7.2 to 7.x+1 (where x > 1 obviously 😉 )

                                    Next time XS will be upgraded (every 6 months approx) it will be available via simple patches.

                                    7.1 is "frozen" (more or less patches) because it's an LTS.

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                                    • BRRABillB
                                      BRRABill @olivier
                                      last edited by

                                      @olivier said in XenServer 7.1 is out...:

                                      7.2 is here guys 😉

                                      https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xenserver-7-2/

                                      Calm down, it's not a big step from 7.1. In fact, it's the start of a more "rolling releasing" thing for 7.2 to 7.x+1 (where x > 1 obviously 😉 )

                                      Next time XS will be upgraded (every 6 months approx) it will be available via simple patches.

                                      7.1 is "frozen" (more or less patches) because it's an LTS.

                                      Thanks for the info.

                                      I'm debating doing that to see if it fixes my little issue I have from patches to 7.0

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