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    XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words

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    • olivierO
      olivier
      last edited by

      Hi there,

      XOSAN beta is meant to be done on XOA only because it uses mechanism related to xen-orchestra.com (you need a valid account there, with a valid token). So it's not possible to try XOSAN via XO on the sources.

      It's still in a really early phase right now, so before going further we'll validate all the Phases explained in the blog post.

      About the StarWind thing, I don't know the product at all, but on our side it's:

      • XenServer only
      • Thin provisioned
      • Pool wide, ie working from 2 nodes up to 16 (well in theory more, but it's pool-wide not across pools)
      • Uses Duplication/Triplication but also Disperse mode, depending of your need
      • Auto heal (when a host/node is coming back online, it fetches all the missing data)
      • Easy install/deploy (thanks to XOA)
      • And more (basically, everything you can do with GlusterFS but "in a box", so think about HDD+SSD caching, complex disks usage to avoid any hardware RAID etc.)
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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee
        last edited by

        Hope to start playing around in the next day or so!

        0_1488499473095_xosan_create.PNG

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        • olivierO
          olivier
          last edited by

          Just made some benchmarks recently: https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/new-xosan-benchmarks/

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @olivier
            last edited by

            @olivier Will the community members get to test XOSAN?

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            • olivierO
              olivier
              last edited by

              It's available in XOA Free, so you can test it without restrictions 🙂

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @olivier
                last edited by

                @olivier So no lol.

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                • olivierO
                  olivier
                  last edited by

                  It's completely free and easy to use 🙂 XOSAN deployement process is complex, rely on various bricks and linked to xen-orchesra.com, so that would have require a lot of effort to make it available directly from the sources in a usable way.

                  But if you want to do it yourself, it's also possible:

                  1. create a VM in each host of your pool you want to have in the cluster
                  2. install gluster server in each, create the cluster
                  3. install gluster client in XS
                  4. modify the file SM driver into XenServer to fit with Gluster
                  5. restart the toolstack
                  6. mount it

                  This way, you could also bench it 🙂

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                  • olivierO
                    olivier
                    last edited by

                    Not a published blog post (still in draft) but here is some bench done, please follow this link and keep it for yourself 😉

                    We hope to make it for the end of the month (phase II) with a robust health status and flexibility (XOSAN full diagnostic, allow to replace in one click any faulty node, and everything auto heal itself).

                    Also, we'll try to release the Gluster driver in Open Source for those who want to connect XenServer to an existing Gluster or create their own XOSAN manually.

                    XOSAN will be an extra product of Xen Orchestra (but you can purchase even in XOA Free), including the turnkey side (and believe me it's not trivial) with full diag status and health + flexibility, including pro support on it obviously.

                    We'll try to make a Phase III before the official release, with tiering capabilities (HDD + SSD cache to get best of both world).

                    We started to create the official doc here: https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/xosan.html

                    Remember the goals of XOSAN:

                    • protect your data thanks to replication of data on multiple (from 2 to 16) hosts
                    • provide XenServer high availability without buying a NAS or a SAN
                    • give you flexibility to grow your storage by adding new nodes
                    • work on all kind of hardware, from HDDs to SSDs
                    • fully monitored solution
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                      Alex Sage @olivier
                      last edited by

                      @olivier Very Impressed! Nice work 🙂

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @olivier
                        last edited by

                        @olivier Very nice numbers there, and I'm excited you're looking to release XOSAN to the community!

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @dustinb3403 It won't be XOSAN to the community. XOSAN is like XOA, a turnkey packaged solution.

                          You'll be able to mount a gluster volume when we'll open the Gluster driver (which allows to create a SR of Gluster type in short). Then you can do whatever you want with that, but you'll need to monitor it yourself, and understand how Gluster works. Something you won't require by using XOSAN 🙂

                          Also a trial version of XOSAN will be available for people who want to test it and bench it quickly (literally in few clicks)

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @olivier
                            last edited by

                            @olivier Two comments, these links don't work

                            • https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/xosan_management.md

                            • https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/xosan_trial.md

                            Lastly, if you are converting your native language to English have you considered a translation or proofing service?

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                            • olivierO
                              olivier
                              last edited by

                              1. Doc is not completed because the product isn't. Consider it as a draft.
                              2. Blog post is still a draft
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                                junaidmehmood
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                                I wants to make Virtual Storage Area Network (VSAN) or XOSAN on my XCP-ng Please guide me all its steps etc. thankyou!!

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @junaidmehmood
                                  last edited by DustinB3403

                                  @junaidmehmood said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                  I wants to make Virtual Storage Area Network (VSAN) or XOSAN on my XCP-ng Please guide me all its steps etc. thankyou!!

                                  Are you using XOA or XO from Source?

                                  Edit: Assuming you're using the XO from Source - https://github.com/xcp-ng/xcp/wiki/XOSAN

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                                    junaidmehmood
                                    last edited by

                                    yes i am using xoa with xcp-ng now i need to install the xosanv2. please guide how to deploy on it?

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @junaidmehmood
                                      last edited by

                                      @junaidmehmood said in XenOrchestra XOSAN...a pic is worth 1000 words:

                                      yes i am using xoa with xcp-ng now i need to install the xosanv2. please guide how to deploy on it?

                                      If you have XOA, the Bates team would be the best source of information to help you get this deployed.

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @junaidmehmood
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                                        @junaidmehmood take a screenshot of your XOA webpage so I can verify some things.

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