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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @Dashrender technically a fair market can be a market of 1. . .

      It's not how many are in the market, but how many can be in the market.

      Exactly. If you invent something, the market is fair as long as you're the only player. The instant there's a second player, if they are somehow prevented from coming into the market, it's no longer fair.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        Also, municipalities should not be able to sell exclusive rights to single or even dual carriers to the easements.

        This I agree with mostly, unless the municipality is offering free internet as a part of the taxes.

        It's where there is no community choice, that businesses like Frontier, Time Warner (Spectrum) etc are entrenched and make these wild claims about leaving etc, that the municipality folds and provides these insane concessions.

        I'm not really for a municipality providing access either. Infrastructure for access, sure, but actual internet access - I'm borderline. If the city does the right thing and constantly renegotiates it's contracts to get good rates for the municipality, then maybe. But the ISPs could have a junction to the municipalities network and then residents could pick any provider they wanted... all the while the city ensuring it's not the bottle neck (taxes) would allow actual competition.
        But managing a network like that might just not be doable.

        I'm I'm not a huge fan of the city being the ISP because I'm against government having those records (not that they don't pay the ISPs for them now).

        Government will have the records either way. I prefer pushing the records into government hands because that is what pushes for regulation. Having governments only have records unofficially, or sometimes, encourages people to ignore putting watchdogs on the government.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @Dashrender technically a fair market can be a market of 1. . .

          It's not how many are in the market, but how many can be in the market.

          Exactly. If you invent something, the market is fair as long as you're the only player. The instant there's a second player, if they are somehow prevented from coming into the market, it's no longer fair.

          Right.

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          • coliverC
            coliver
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            https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/ajit-pai-accidentally-supports-utility-rules-and-open-access-networks/#p3

            Pai doesn't like the open internet... calls for further open internet policies.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @coliver
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              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/ajit-pai-accidentally-supports-utility-rules-and-open-access-networks/#p3

              Pai doesn't like .....

              Freedom of speech, America, etc.

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              • coliverC
                coliver
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                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/net-neutrality-goes-down-in-flames-as-fcc-votes-to-kill-title-ii-rules

                Isn't public corruption fun? At least they tried to hide it in the past.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/05/net-neutrality-goes-down-in-flames-as-fcc-votes-to-kill-title-ii-rules

                  Isn't public corruption fun? At least they tried to hide it in the past.

                  At least Comcast tried to stop this happening 😞

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
                    last edited by

                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/#p3

                    Pai says that ISPs aren't a pipe to the internet by describing a pipe to the internet...

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @coliver
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                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/#p3

                      Pai says that ISPs aren't a pipe to the internet by describing a pipe to the internet...

                      There are not enough foxes on the planet for the sheer level of FFS this shit needs.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/to-kill-net-neutrality-rules-fcc-says-broadband-isnt-telecommunications/#p3

                        Pai says that ISPs aren't a pipe to the internet by describing a pipe to the internet...

                        There are not enough foxes on the planet for the sheer level of FFS this shit needs.

                        Seriously. It amazes me that someone who is obviously so incompetent as to not understand what the internet is and where it came from can regulate it.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
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                          /s It's cool guys, we're all just having a massive shared hallucination.

                          Calm down . . .
                          /s

                          Also make sure to watch John Olivier Tonight, as I'm sure he'll be back on this topic.

                          Repeat these in your twitter posts etc. Go to the below website and tell them you support Strong Title II and the classification of Broadband as Telecommunications.

                          #gofccyourself

                          gofccyourself.com

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
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                            https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/09/pai_net_neutrality_plan/

                            Net Neutrality more popular than the FCC thought.

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews
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                              Boeing working on pilotless planes...

                              https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/09/boeing_plans_pilotless_passenger_flights/

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver
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                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/06/the-internet-needs-paid-fast-lanes-anti-net-neutrality-senator-says/#p3

                                Obviously the internet needs fast lanes to survive.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @coliver
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                                  @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

                                  "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by coliver

                                    @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

                                    "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

                                    Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

                                      "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

                                      Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

                                      And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

                                        "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

                                        Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

                                        And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

                                        Yep... Although according the Pai those never happened.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

                                          "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

                                          Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

                                          And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

                                          Yep... Although according the Pai those never happened.

                                          And propaganda parades for the Nazi's never happened either. . .

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            This one abuse I was specifically effected by and never knew it, as in one day I couldn't use my app on my phone at the time any more.

                                            "VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction."

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