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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @coliver
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      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

      "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

      Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

      And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

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      • coliverC
        coliver @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

        "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

        Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

        And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

        Yep... Although according the Pai those never happened.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          @coliver this quote right here proves that Pai and the rest of the Anti Net Neutrality congressmen have no clue at all how the internet operates.

          "Chairman Pai just mentioned medical diagnostics," Johnson said. "You might need a fast lane within that pipeline so those diagnoses can be transmitted instantaneously and not be held up by, I don't know, maybe a movie streaming."

          Right... There are provisions in the current Net Neutrality rules specifically for tele-medicine.

          And there are provisions so the FCC can stop abuses from ISP's like these.

          Yep... Although according the Pai those never happened.

          And propaganda parades for the Nazi's never happened either. . .

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by DustinB3403

            This one abuse I was specifically effected by and never knew it, as in one day I couldn't use my app on my phone at the time any more.

            "VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction."

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            • coliverC
              coliver @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              This one abuse I was specifically effected by and never knew it, as in one day I couldn't use my app on my phone at the time any more.

              "VERIZON: In 2012, the FCC caught Verizon Wireless blocking people from using tethering applications on their phones. Verizon had asked Google to remove 11 free tethering applications from the Android marketplace. These applications allowed users to circumvent Verizon’s $20 tethering fee and turn their smartphones into Wi-Fi hot spots. By blocking those applications, Verizon violated a Net Neutrality pledge it made to the FCC as a condition of the 2008 airwaves auction."

              Yep I ran into that one as well.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
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                Interesting article on the spin that the NCTA is trying to spin to remove net neutrality.

                https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/06/broadband-speeds-have-soared-under-net-neutrality-rules-cable-lobby-says/

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
                  last edited by

                  Apparently Ajit Pai is substantially opposed to the concept of democracy, which uses the "count" of votes, not the content. He said that the count doesn't... count.

                  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/ajit-pai-not-concerned-about-number-of-pro-net-neutrality-comments/

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
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                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/trump-team-endorses-fcc-rollback-of-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules

                    Still more insanity.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/trump-team-endorses-fcc-rollback-of-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules

                      Still more insanity.

                      The top rated comment there is as accurate as it could be. . .

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/trump-team-endorses-fcc-rollback-of-obama-era-net-neutrality-rules

                        Still more insanity.

                        The top rated comment there is as accurate as it could be. . .

                        hahaha you mean this?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch Yup lol.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver
                            last edited by

                            We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

                            What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

                              What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

                              They did that the moment that private ISPs owning the last mile access to customers was allowed.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

                                What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

                                They did that the moment that private ISPs owning the last mile access to customers was allowed.

                                I didn't used to agree with this, but today - oh yeah - THIS! The city should own this... it allows the possibility of choice, something we are completely lacking in today.

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                                • mlnewsM
                                  mlnews
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                                  https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/18/comcast_on_net_neutrality/

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                                  • mlnewsM
                                    mlnews
                                    last edited by

                                    At least the senate is starting to wonder what is going on...

                                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/senator-challenges-ajit-pai-over-evidence-for-net-neutrality-repeal/

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                                    • mlnewsM
                                      mlnews
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                                      https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/fcc-has-no-documentation-of-ddos-attack-that-hit-net-neutrality-comments/

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
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                                        https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/20/fcc_cant_prove_ddos_attack/

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                                          I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                                            I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

                                            Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

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