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    FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch Yup lol.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

        What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @coliver
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          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

          We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

          What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

          They did that the moment that private ISPs owning the last mile access to customers was allowed.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            We support the FCC chair's efforts to review and consider rolling back these rules and believe that the best way to get fair rules for everyone is for Congress to take action and create regulatory and economic certainty.

            What does economic certainty mean? That they can now make money regardless of their business strategy? That public pressure won't affect them? This seems oddly like the federal government entering into a trust with the ISPs.

            They did that the moment that private ISPs owning the last mile access to customers was allowed.

            I didn't used to agree with this, but today - oh yeah - THIS! The city should own this... it allows the possibility of choice, something we are completely lacking in today.

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
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              https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/18/comcast_on_net_neutrality/

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
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                At least the senate is starting to wonder what is going on...

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/senator-challenges-ajit-pai-over-evidence-for-net-neutrality-repeal/

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
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                  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/fcc-has-no-documentation-of-ddos-attack-that-hit-net-neutrality-comments/

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                  • mlnewsM
                    mlnews
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                    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/20/fcc_cant_prove_ddos_attack/

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                      I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                        I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

                        Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                          I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

                          Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

                          That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

                          So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                            I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

                            Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

                            That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

                            So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

                            Which would have some merit... if the governments, state and federal, weren't putting massive grants out there to improve infrastructure.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @coliver
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                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              I'm really curious what these costs are to ISPs by having to comply with Title II?

                              I'm curious how complying with Title II makes ISPs not want to invest in better/more infrastructure.

                              Because it forces them to serve people that are not profitable to serve.

                              That there is the issue. The business looks at an installation project and sees a pricetag of X, and then say it would require us to charge X per month to recoup this in X years.

                              So they just don't want to. It's understandable, but also unreasonable, as improvements is what makes everything better.

                              Which would have some merit... if the governments, state and federal, weren't putting massive grants out there to improve infrastructure.

                              The issue though is businesses and residence over inflate the price of renovation improvements. So the grants while accurate, don't cover the costs.

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                              • mlnewsM
                                mlnews
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                                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/senator-blasts-fcc-for-refusing-to-provide-ddos-analysis/

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                                • mlnewsM
                                  mlnews
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                                  Verizon already busted for throttling the competition.

                                  https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @mlnews
                                    last edited by

                                    @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    Verizon already busted for throttling the competition.

                                    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/07/verizon-wireless-apparently-throttles-streaming-video-to-10mbps/

                                    And it begins. . .

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                                    • mlnewsM
                                      mlnews
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                                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/lawsuit-seeks-ajit-pais-net-neutrality-talks-with-internet-providers/

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
                                        last edited by

                                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/verizons-throttling-of-video-should-be-investigated-by-fcc-petition-says/

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                                        • mlnewsM
                                          mlnews
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                                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/07/congressman-blasts-ajit-pai-for-anti-consumer-anti-competition-agenda/

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                                          • mlnewsM
                                            mlnews
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                                            https://opensource.com/article/17/8/net-neutrality

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