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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      In a surprise twist AT&T calls on lawmakers to draft and pass an Internet Bill of Rights for Consumers.

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      • momurdaM
        momurda @DustinB3403
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        They are going to write the law to benefit themselves, get it sponsored by shitbags in the House and Senate, it passes, everybody loses except ATT CMCSA VZW.
        Most laws passed by congress are now written by lawyers from corporations or lobbyist and then sponsored by congresspeople.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by

          Now I wonder why they would, my guess is they are realizing they might end up paying way more to offer their services which will hurt their customers and thus them in turn...

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
              last edited by

              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

              New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

              Go NY!

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                Go NY!

                It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                  Go NY!

                  It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                  They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                    Go NY!

                    It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                    They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                    Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                      Go NY!

                      It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                      They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                      Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                      Ha before a suit can be officially created the FCC has to post the file bill for the removal of NN rules. Which I don't think has happened yet.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                        Go NY!

                        It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                        They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                        Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                        I just don't see that happening. At best the part about states not being able to have their own rules might be overturned though.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                          Go NY!

                          It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                          They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                          Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                          I just don't see that happening.

                          Don't see what happening?

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                            New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                            Go NY!

                            It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                            They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                            Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                            I just don't see that happening.

                            Don't see what happening?

                            The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                            No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                              Go NY!

                              It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                              They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                              Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                              I just don't see that happening.

                              Don't see what happening?

                              The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                              No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                              I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                Go NY!

                                It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                I just don't see that happening.

                                Don't see what happening?

                                The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                What would the statue for that be?

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                  Go NY!

                                  It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                  They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                  Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                  I just don't see that happening.

                                  Don't see what happening?

                                  The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                  No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                  I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                  What would the statue for that be?

                                  The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                    Go NY!

                                    It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                    They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                    Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                    I just don't see that happening.

                                    Don't see what happening?

                                    The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                    No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                    I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                    What would the statue for that be?

                                    The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                                    Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                      New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                      Go NY!

                                      It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                      They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                      Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                      I just don't see that happening.

                                      Don't see what happening?

                                      The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                      No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                      I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                      What would the statue for that be?

                                      The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                                      Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                                      It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @DustinB3403
                                        last edited by

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                        New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                        Go NY!

                                        It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                        They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                        Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                        I just don't see that happening.

                                        Don't see what happening?

                                        The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                        No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                        I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                        What would the statue for that be?

                                        The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                                        Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                                        It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

                                        But I'm assuming the response need be nothing more than - go pound sand.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                          New York's governor signs executive order similar to Montana, requiring ISPs to adhere to Net Neutrality rules.

                                          Go NY!

                                          It's good news. I'm hoping that the FCC doesn't preempt these Executive orders though.

                                          They already attempted to in their repeal order. 22 or 23 states are suing the FCC over their repeal, so this will go to court as well.

                                          Yep, I knew about the lawsuit to force the FCC to bring the rules back. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next year or two.

                                          I just don't see that happening.

                                          Don't see what happening?

                                          The FCC losing a lawsuit that would require them to reinstate Net Neutrality. It's their playground as I understand it, they, the FCC, have this power granted to them by Congress. Assuming some other law (that I haven't heard about yet) trumps their power to make this change, I don't see that happening.

                                          No to get real change here we need either Congress to pass laws, or a new head of the FCC to push through new changes (but then again, we'd be just remaining where we are now, on a tetter totter of who's in office as to what the rules will be).

                                          I'm wondering if they will try for incompetence or some other form of negligence against Pai. He knowingly supported and pushed through revoking the rules even when evidence for all his talking points were proven factually incorrect.

                                          What would the statue for that be?

                                          The statute that the FCC has to take and respond to public comments. Of which he took and falsely responded to the comments.

                                          Do they? I honestly don't know if they are required to listen or respond to public comments. Frankly that seems like little more than a PR mechanism.

                                          It might be just that, but they are required to respond to public comments after something like 100,000 people sign a complaint / letter etc.

                                          But I'm assuming the response need be nothing more than - go pound sand.

                                          could be.. . lol

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                                            bigbear
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                                            All I know is that I Like my Whopper without politics.

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