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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-republican-claims-municipal-broadband-is-threat-to-first-amendment/#p3

      In only that private organisations can't really infringe on first amendment rights... Not that they won't infringe on free speech and freedom of the press.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @coliver
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        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/10/fcc-republican-claims-municipal-broadband-is-threat-to-first-amendment/#p3

        In only that private organisations can't really infringe on first amendment rights... Not that they won't infringe on free speech and freedom of the press.

        Does this mean that the military and police forces need to be privatized so they don't infringe on our rights either?
        /sigh

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          Verizon won’t speed up 5G buildout despite FCC preempting local fees

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            Supreme Court rejects industry challenge of 2015 net neutrality rules
            But lawsuits over Pai's net neutrality repeal and California law will continue.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
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              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

              "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

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                  bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                  That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                  I do love my TSA Precheck, but totally agree that it is bullshit. If my company didn't pay for it, I would have never gotten it.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                    "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                    That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                    I don't consider this the same at all.

                    With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                      "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                      That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                      I don't consider this the same at all.

                      With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                      Adam Ruins Everything.

                      Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                        "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                        That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                        I don't consider this the same at all.

                        With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                        Adam Ruins Everything.

                        Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

                        Considering the other current options - I'm OK with that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/11/net-neutrality-foe-marsha-blackburn-wins-us-senate-seat/#p3

                          "Blackburn has argued in favor of paid prioritization, saying that websites and online services should pay ISPs for priority access just as Americans pay for TSA Precheck in order to go through airport security lines faster."

                          That's a great example of why paid prioritization is a problem. TSA Precheck is BS. "Fast lanes for the rich to bypass security?" WTF America.

                          I don't consider this the same at all.

                          With TSA precheck - people are put through a security background check - as long as you don't have anything outstanding about yourself, they (TSA) have less to worry about you over. Is it great? no of course not, but as that show (can't recall name now) showed - TSA is all theater anyhow.

                          Adam Ruins Everything.

                          Yeah, it's all fake. And so it isn't prioritizing people with a good record, it's just prioritizing those that pay to line jump.

                          Considering the other current options - I'm OK with that.

                          You are okay with paid prioritization in the public space?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I think nothing from the government should involve bribes, official or unofficial, to prioritize over other people. Private space, that's different, but nothing public. Would you be okay if you could pay for easier voting, for example?

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              @scottalanmiller said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                              I think nothing from the government should involve bribes, official or unofficial, to prioritize over other people. Private space, that's different, but nothing public. Would you be okay if you could pay for easier voting, for example?

                              Frankly - yes. But a mail in ballot is pretty damned easy - and well i do have to pay for the stamp from me to the voting office.

                              I know it's altruistic to want everyone to be equal from a public POV, but the reality is we are not. And flying isn't public either, these are private businesses (and I'm pretty sure the airports are too - though I leave TONS of room to be wrong) that operate with government oversite. I.E. the TSA is government run, not airport run.

                              I suppose you're going to say that Pre-Check should be free for everyone - so everyone can be wisked through more quickly... I'm not sure if that plays into the theater affect or not? I'd be OK if it was free for everyone, and those who don't want background checks then you get the slow, take your shoes/belt, etc off line.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                I know it's altruistic to want everyone to be equal from a public POV, but the reality is we are not. And flying isn't public either...

                                The hell it isn't. FAA, airports, TSA... all 100% public.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  I suppose you're going to say that Pre-Check should be free for everyone ....

                                  I think everything provided through tax dollars should be equal. If you want it faster, fix it, don't allow the rich to be excused the poor to suffer.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dashrender said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    (and I'm pretty sure the airports are too - though I leave TONS of room to be wrong)...

                                    They are private like health insurance, ISPs, FAA, the highway and other utilities are private... all as a farce and theatre. They are public utilities with a lot of corruption involved. No matter whose banner is slapped on it, it's a public utility and the government owns it, they just want to put on "capitalism theater" for you, and it works. They make it seem like capitalism and choice and free market are all at play, but they are not. The government decides there will be an airport, they choose where and how big and how expensive, they decide everything. Then they hire some company to funnel money around to make it look like consumers have choice.

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                                        Comcast forced to pay refunds after its hidden fees hurt customers’ credit

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                                        • DustinB3403D
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                                          AT&T CEO: State net neutrality and privacy laws are a “total disaster”

                                          Um. . . yeah because you're not allowed to do whatever the hell you want. . .

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