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    • coliverC
      coliver @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

      Good lord, someone's getting fired + put on trial for that one

      Haha, oh man that's funny.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

        @MattSpeller said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

        Good lord, someone's getting fired + put on trial for that one

        One can only hope.

        Stop reading my mind before I scroll down far enough to see your reply 😛

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/keylogger.jpg

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

            https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/keylogger.jpg

            That password though. . . I mean come on "football23" no capitals, or special characters. . . Would you even need a keylogger for that?

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              scotth
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              I have one here.
              I made the log file read only.
              Let's have a little fun.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                @scottalanmiller said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/keylogger.jpg

                That password though. . . I mean come on "football23" no capitals, or special characters. . . Would you even need a keylogger for that?

                My guess for a single cracking machine (8 video cards for massively parallel compute), about 2 minutes.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
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                  Yeah I actually just shipped one of these laptops back yesterday!

                  Good thing it was only a trial device and we did nothing with it.

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                  • momurdaM
                    momurda @scotth
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                    @scotth Is the log file showing all keystrokes before you made it readoly?

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                      scotth @momurda
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                      @momurda No. Zero byte file at this time. I haven't checked alternative streams yet.

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                        scotth @scotth
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                        @scotth said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                        @momurda No. Zero byte file at this time. I haven't checked alternative streams yet.

                        Interesting. While attempting to open the file, I get denied access due to another process.

                        Edit: It's currently marked as readonly and hidden.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scotth
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                          @scotth said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                          @scotth said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                          @momurda No. Zero byte file at this time. I haven't checked alternative streams yet.

                          Interesting. While attempting to open the file, I get denied access due to another process.

                          Edit: It's currently marked as readonly and hidden.

                          The executable will delete it and recreate it though.

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda
                            last edited by momurda

                            Math is probably wrong, but
                            football23
                            10 chars password
                            36 possiblities per character space only using lowercase letters and numbers
                            36^10 possibilities roundabout.
                            3,656,158,440,062,976
                            If you do 100MillionHashes/second,
                            365,615,644 seconds or 101,559 hours or 4231 days or 11.5 years

                            But since football is in the dictionary it is likely much easier if your algorithm does dictionary before trying random strings. Either way, it is much easier to do if youre recording keystrokes.

                            @scotth Can you undo the read only bit and reboot that laptop see what happens?

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @momurda
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                              @momurda It would take about a single day for the average computer to brute force that password.

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                                scotth @momurda
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                                @momurda Not right now. I may play around with it tonight. Comodo has a crazy task manager that I'll run on it tonight

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @momurda
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                                  @momurda said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                  But since football is in the dictionary it is likely much easier if your algorithm does dictionary before trying random strings. Either way, it is much easier to do if youre recording keystrokes.

                                  Yep, dictionary word = not even bothering with brute forcing.

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                                  • anthonyhA
                                    anthonyh @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                    @momurda It would take about a single day for the average computer to brute force that password.

                                    What if the authentication back-end implemented a lockout or throttling policy? Like after X attempts the account is locked out and/or authentication responses are delayed by X time?

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @anthonyh
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                                      @anthonyh said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                      @momurda It would take about a single day for the average computer to brute force that password.

                                      What if the authentication back-end implemented a lockout or throttling policy? Like after X attempts the account is locked out and/or authentication responses are delayed by X time?

                                      That's great so long as it's not an offline attack. IE: Do you know who's seen your salt?

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                                      • anthonyhA
                                        anthonyh @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                        @anthonyh said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in HP Laptops Found with Keylogger Built Into Audio Driver:

                                        @momurda It would take about a single day for the average computer to brute force that password.

                                        What if the authentication back-end implemented a lockout or throttling policy? Like after X attempts the account is locked out and/or authentication responses are delayed by X time?

                                        That's great so long as it's not an offline attack. IE: Do you know who's seen your salt?

                                        That makes sense.

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                                          scotth
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                                          Last night, I fired up KillSwitch (Comodo Task Manager on Steroids), killed the process - MicTray_64.exe (can't really remember) and the log file was released for editing / viewing.
                                          Sneaky.

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                                            scotth
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                                            https://www.axios.com/hp-says-it-has-a-fix-for-flaw-that-caused-some-pcs-to-log-every-keystr-2403751321.html
                                            Spiceworks - Spark

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