Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 28 Cinnamon Desktop

Dashrender

@travisdh1 said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Dashrender said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

Do you find pinning things to the start menu helpful instead of typing something into cortana?

Cortana was so bad when Windows 10 released, it's the first thing I get rid of on the start menu bar. Have they improved it much since release?

I rarely customize my setup these days. Mostly so I don't forget "the norm" when working on someone else's computer, and frankly the customization rarely is overly beneficial.

Though I do pin my own most commonly used things to the task bar.

scottalanmiller

Same here, I run things very stock no matter what the platform.

coliver

Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

coliver

I'm using Korora as the base OS on my Lenovo laptop. It's actually been significantly more stable then Windows 10. Granted I've only been using it for a week.

scottalanmiller

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

I'm using Korora as the base OS on my Lenovo laptop. It's actually been significantly more stable then Windows 10.

Pretty low bar there.

Obsolesce

@Dashrender said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

I rarely see my desktop, so desktop icons are completely useless to me.

Don't disagree with you there. But clicking Cortana then typing a few characters of what you're looking for, then hit enter seems better than looking for an icon in that mass of icons.

I go both ways. If it's not pinned on my task bar, I will do it either way depending on what I'm doing:

If both hands are on keyboard, I'll hit the windows key to bring up start and start typing what I want.
If I'm using the mouse, I'll hit the windows key to bring up start and click what I want, rather than bringing over my other hand to start typing.

scottalanmiller

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

I go both ways.

TMI

Obsolesce

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

coliver

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

Obsolesce

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

coliver

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

I don't believe so, but that could be. It doesn't come pre-installed and isn't part of the virtio iso that I'm aware of.

JaredBusch

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

Obsolesce

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

coliver

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

JaredBusch

@coliver awesome. nailed it..
Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

But I have not even googled that yet.

I am supposed to be workign atm...

coliver

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver awesome. nailed it..
Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

But I have not even googled that yet.

I am supposed to be workign atm...

I'm pretty sure this will work but I haven't tested it.

https://www.spice-space.org/page/MultiHeadVirtManagerWindowsGuests

Obsolesce

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

coliver

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

Obsolesce

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

Obsolesce

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

@Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

I see. I did a quick search and found these:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

Done. What an improvement! Especially when windowed.

Adding this bit into my OP.

Thanks!