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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @coliver
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      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

      Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

      Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

      Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

      Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

      I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Obsolesce
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        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

        Did you install the SPICE drivers for Windows 10? It fixes issues with copy and paste as well as provides dynamic cursor capture.

        Are the SPICE drivers something I would install in addition to all the stuff in the virtio-win.iso? I haven't done anything with those SPICE drivers.

        Asking because when I'm in full screen mode, I can't even tell I'm on a VM.

        Yes, the SPICE drivers would be in addtion. If you're in full screen don't worry about it but the SPICE drivers make it much easier to work between Windows and Fedora.

        I noticed that in the VM settings, the Display already says "Display Spice". Does that mean they are already installed?

        I don't believe so, but that could be. It doesn't come pre-installed and isn't part of the virtio iso that I'm aware of.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
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          @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

            I see. I did a quick search and found these:

            https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
            https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

            At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
            Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @Obsolesce
              last edited by coliver

              @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

              I see. I did a quick search and found these:

              https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
              https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

              At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
              Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

              Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

              From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @coliver
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                @coliver awesome. nailed it..
                Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

                But I have not even googled that yet.

                I am supposed to be workign atm...

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                  @coliver awesome. nailed it..
                  Now the only thing I want is to figure out how to get the full screen mode to use both of my monitors.

                  But I have not even googled that yet.

                  I am supposed to be workign atm...

                  I'm pretty sure this will work but I haven't tested it.

                  https://www.spice-space.org/page/MultiHeadVirtManagerWindowsGuests

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @coliver
                    last edited by

                    @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                    I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                    https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                    https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                    At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                    Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                    Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                    From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                    Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                    I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                    I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @Obsolesce
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                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                      I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                      https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                      https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                      At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                      Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                      Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                      From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                      Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                      I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                      I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                      Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @coliver
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                        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                        @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                        I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                        https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                        https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                        At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                        Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                        Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                        From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                        Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                        I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                        I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                        Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

                        Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @Obsolesce
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                          @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @Tim_G said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @JaredBusch said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          @Tim_G I believe that if you get this SPICE driver installed inside windows then you get clipboard copy paste portability and such.

                          I see. I did a quick search and found these:

                          https://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE
                          https://www.spice-space.org/spice-user-manual.html

                          At quick glance it looks a little confusing or involved. It will take me a bit to knock it down into easy steps like in my original post. That's how I like to do things if possible, if anyone already has notes on it that would be helpful.
                          Otherwise, I won't be able to touch this until the weekend. I'm too busy to break things atm.

                          Nope it's really simple. https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                          From here: https://www.spice-space.org/download.html

                          Oh, so this is a guest only thing? Don't I have to install SPICE server or something on Fedora?

                          I thought I had to do a ton of things in Fedora CLI.

                          I guess I'm just so lost atm because I haven't had time to properly look into it yet.

                          Nope Virt Manager is already running the SPICE server. You just have to install the guest agent and you're good to go.

                          Awesome. I'll give it a whirl.

                          Done. What an improvement! Especially when windowed.

                          Adding this bit into my OP.

                          Thanks!

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite
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                            I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                            Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee
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                              @coliver said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                              https://www.spice-space.org/download/windows/spice-guest-tools/spice-guest-tools-latest.exe

                              I only install this ^^
                              IIRC, both do the same thing.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                                @black3dynamite said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                                Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

                                I did not know that the Spice Guest Tools installed everything the virtio-win.iso installs. If that is so, I can remove that from the procedure.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                                  @tim_g said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  @black3dynamite said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                  I'm curious about why you install both virtio drivers and spice guest tools?
                                  Spice Guest Tools also includes virtio drivers.

                                  I did not know that the Spice Guest Tools installed everything the virtio-win.iso installs. If that is so, I can remove that from the procedure.

                                  From what I can tell we only need the SPICE agent for Windows or Linux in order to have to the enhanced features. Before I've always installed the virtio drivers that is provided by Fedora and then installed SPICE guest agent.
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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ
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                                    Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ
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                                      I dont appear to be missing any drivers...

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @IRJ
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                                        @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                        Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                        I have only ever installed the spice tools for this. I have never had a problem on my desktop or laptop when doing it this way.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @IRJ
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                                          @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                          Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                          I believe they are included in Spice Tools... Haven't touched KVM in awhile to test though.

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                                          • black3dynamiteB
                                            black3dynamite @IRJ
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                                            @irj said in Bringing up a Win10 VM on Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                                            Do I need virtio drivers if I have already installed spice tools? I am a little confused about the difference between the two. Because when I installed Spice Tools, it installed drivers for various components...

                                            Spice Guest Tools includes the latest stable version of the virtio drivers which I believe is 0.1.141

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