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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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      @NerdyDad said in VeeamOn 2017:

      You would figure that for a tech company conference that they would have all of this other stuff figured out and at top-notch.

      It's harder than you think. Not like the staff running stuff is part of the software engineering team. And not like software engineers know much about audio. And not like they are at their own facility, it's a conference center.

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @NerdyDad
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        @NerdyDad said in VeeamOn 2017:

        You would figure that for a tech company conference that they would have all of this other stuff figured out and at top-notch.

        Don't get me started on audio equipment. You can go from sound check to opening act and have a cable or mic go bad in that time. I bet @RojoLoco has even more recent stories.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          No coffee on the second floor between the main session and the break outs? THat's the time that we need the coffee the most.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in VeeamOn 2017:

            @NerdyDad said in VeeamOn 2017:

            You would figure that for a tech company conference that they would have all of this other stuff figured out and at top-notch.

            Don't get me started on audio equipment. You can go from sound check to opening act and have a cable or mic go bad in that time. I bet @RojoLoco has even more recent stories.

            Did sound last night for a band. Sound check went fine. We lost a powered monitor inbetween sound check and start time half hour later. Happens often enough.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Finished lunch and am now sitting in a session room to get some quiet time before the session itself begins. It's the Linux Agent Scripting session.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                  scottalanmiller
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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                    Finished lunch and am now sitting in a session room to get some quiet time before the session itself begins. It's the Linux Agent Scripting session.

                    Sounds like Veem will be our next backup solution here. Gonna have to sit down and watch some of these sessions sometime... time, ask me for anything but time.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      In the "Using Microsoft ReFS and Storage Spaces Direct as a Backup Target for Veeam" session now.

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in VeeamOn 2017:

                        @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                        Finished lunch and am now sitting in a session room to get some quiet time before the session itself begins. It's the Linux Agent Scripting session.

                        Sounds like Veem will be our next backup solution here. Gonna have to sit down and watch some of these sessions sometime... time, ask me for anything but time.

                        You will not regret that decision.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                          @travisdh1 said in VeeamOn 2017:

                          @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                          Finished lunch and am now sitting in a session room to get some quiet time before the session itself begins. It's the Linux Agent Scripting session.

                          Sounds like Veem will be our next backup solution here. Gonna have to sit down and watch some of these sessions sometime... time, ask me for anything but time.

                          Awesome

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            OMG MVPs speaking should not be allowed. The fanboi aspects are really bad. They are denying things that Veeam said in other sessions to make MS look good. And saying that if you want more than 2 VMs on a server (instead of 13) that Datacenter is break even. Clearly they either don't know MS products well, or are getting a bit ridiculous on the promotion.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Okay, in his defense, he literally just said "I'm a Microsoft fanboi".

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                You know Windows 2016 isn't very impressive when everyone is raving about software RAID as it no one has ever heard of it before.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  MVPs claim that Microsoft sees NTFS as old and antiquated and wants everyone to move to ReFS. That's the first that I've heard any of that.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                    MVPs claim that Microsoft sees NTFS as old and antiquated and wants everyone to move to ReFS. That's the first that I've heard any of that.

                                    Not that specifically but that "class" I was in it was pretty much all ReFS and how it's so awesome...

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @travisdh1
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                                      @travisdh1 said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                      @NerdyDad said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                      You would figure that for a tech company conference that they would have all of this other stuff figured out and at top-notch.

                                      Don't get me started on audio equipment. You can go from sound check to opening act and have a cable or mic go bad in that time. I bet @RojoLoco has even more recent stories.

                                      Yup, Murphy's Law applies to audio gear as well. That's why you should have spares (redundancy!).

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                        MVPs claim that Microsoft sees NTFS as old and antiquated and wants everyone to move to ReFS. That's the first that I've heard any of that.

                                        Not that specifically but that "class" I was in it was pretty much all ReFS and how it's so awesome...

                                        They are raving about how this is a 64bit filesystem. Ha ha, we've been on 128bit for 13 years now!!

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                          OMG MVPs speaking should not be allowed. The fanboi aspects are really bad. They are denying things that Veeam said in other sessions to make MS look good. And saying that if you want more than 2 VMs on a server (instead of 13) that Datacenter is break even. Clearly they either don't know MS products well, or are getting a bit ridiculous on the promotion.

                                          Well considering:

                                          • Windows Server 2016 Standard with SA: ~$1,400
                                          • Windows Server 2016 Datacenter with SA: ~$8,500

                                          Let's do the math:

                                          • 4x 2016 Standard VMs: ~$3,000
                                          • 2016 Datacenter: ~$9,000

                                          I don't see a reason for Datacenter until you start approaching 12 VMs. Depending on the environment, I'd maybe start to consider Datacenter licensing when hitting the 7th VM. Because if you get too far down the line, like let's say you've bought 12 VM's already. And only NOW decide to get Datacenter... well, you just paid double for Datacenter licensing. What do you do with the 6x standard licenses you no longer need after buying DC licensing? Maybe his logic is similar to that, but too extreme.

                                          I'd certainly never consider DC licensing just after 2 VMs. That's actually ridiculous.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                                            @Tim_G said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in VeeamOn 2017:

                                            OMG MVPs speaking should not be allowed. The fanboi aspects are really bad. They are denying things that Veeam said in other sessions to make MS look good. And saying that if you want more than 2 VMs on a server (instead of 13) that Datacenter is break even. Clearly they either don't know MS products well, or are getting a bit ridiculous on the promotion.

                                            Well considering:

                                            • Windows Server 2016 Standard with SA: ~$1,400
                                            • Windows Server 2016 Datacenter with SA: ~$8,500

                                            Let's do the math:

                                            • 4x 2016 Standard VMs: ~$3,000
                                            • 2016 Datacenter: ~$9,000

                                            I don't see a reason for Datacenter until you start approaching 12 VMs. Depending on the environment, I'd maybe start to consider Datacenter licensing when hitting the 7th VM. Because if you get too far down the line, like let's say you've bought 12 VM's already. And only NOW decide to get Datacenter... well, you just paid double for Datacenter licensing. What do you do with the 6x standard licenses you no longer need after buying DC licensing? Maybe his logic is similar to that, but too extreme.

                                            I'd certainly never consider DC licensing just after 2 VMs. That's actually ridiculous.

                                            Yeah, I normally do it around 13. If you need 11 or 12 and there is ANY reasonable chance that you'll need or use more down the road, sure, makes sense. But if you never get to that 13th VM, it was a waste. Given, a small waste at that point.

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